That's excellent info, Jim, very thorough. Thanks for the photos and references!!!
Chris
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-------- Original message -------- From: James Sandrin <sandmantrains@gmail.com> Date: 2/27/21 6:44 PM (GMT-08:00) To: CBQ@groups.io Subject: Re: [CBQ] Scaletrains.com HO CB&Q Havelock 52' 6" Gondola
The 21st Edition of the Car Builder's Cyclopedia (1961) has photos and drawings of the Stanray gondola roof (pgs. 204 and 384), which was the pattern for the Athearn covered gondola roof. As was standard for the time, Athearn modified it to fit their 50-ft car, which required splicing two of them to fit a correct length car, The car in the photos, 83507, was built from a Modeler's Choice laser-kit, the roof was scratch-built from styrene based on all sorts of photos on the RR Archives site courtesy of Chuck Zieler. The 83379 was kit-bashed from a MDC railgon kit, ironically under the tutoring of Ed DeRouin, with the roof made from two Athearn gondola roofs. Hope this is of value! Jim Sandrin
It is hard to tell from that low angle shot, but would these need
to be done as one unit or could they be done as half pieces. If
so, they would be great candidates for resin 3D printing. I don't
think you could get the detail needed in filament printing, but
you could do a base and add parts to it.
James
On 2/27/2021 3:43 PM, popbumper1 wrote:
Gotta love spell check 😒. What I meant to say on
the gondola was "if I have to scratchbuild a roof, then create
molds and resin castings for copies, I'll do it!
Chris
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-------- Original message --------
Date: 2/27/21 12:47 PM (GMT-08:00)
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Scaletrains.com HO CB&Q Havelock 52'
6" Gondola
I already have three of these on order. If it
comes down to scratchbuilt roofs and then creating some mods and
cases, ill be happy to do it!! 😊
Chris
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-------- Original message --------
Date: 2/27/21 7:23 AM (GMT-08:00)
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Scaletrains.com HO CB&Q Havelock 52'
6" Gondola
There was a substantial discussion on the Modern Freight Car
List about these cars when they were announced. There were three
sets of these cars - Classes GM-6 (built 1965), GM-6A (built
1967), and GM-6B (built 1967). As was pointed out by Jim Eager
on the MFCL, the main differences are the number and location of
grab irons. And a number of people on the MFCL list pointed out
the lack of roofs. Since they all had three piece roofs when
delivered and throughout their short CB&Q only lives, the
roofs are essential for a proper model. Based on photo evidence,
the roofs were not removed on even a few cars until the late
1970s in the BN era.
There were also two errors in the lettering on the car
ScaleTrains had as their demo picture. One was the build date
was listed as 1957, not 1967. The second was the Burlington
Route herald plate was incorrectly placed on the car side (not
properly lined up with the billboard Burlington lettering).
ScaleTrains replied to those of us who pointed out the error and
said both issues will be fixed on the production kits.
Bill Hirt
On 2/27/2021 7:59 AM, Tom Mack via
groups.io wrote:
I'm surprised nothing has been said about the Scaletrains.com
announcement concerning their new CB&Q Havelock Shops 52' 6"
gondola in HO:
https://www.scaletrains.com/product/kit-classics-ho-scale-cbq-havelock-shops-52-6-gondola-chicago-burlington-quincy-cbq-run-1/
I think pre-orders are due by tomorrow (Feb 28).
The cars are a simple kit with molded on details. While it would
have been nice to have a higher quality car, its a lot easier to
add detail to a prototypically accurate lower quality car than
build from scratch. I don't think we have has a Q specific
prototype car produced in some time, so it is great to see that
Scaletrains.com chose a CB&Q prototype for this gondola!
BTW, this is the same series of cars that was the topic of a
September 1989 RailModel Journal article by Ed De Rouin and Jim
Singer on taking an MDC/Roundhouse Railgon gondola and
kitbashing it to a CB&Q GBR. So if you were still looking
for an MDC kit and detail parts to do the kitbash, you now have
an actual model to from Scaletrains.com to superdetail or run it
as is.
--
Tom Mack
Cincinnati, OH
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