February 23, 2021
Leo - All that I can tell you is that your beloved 509 left the roster in May 1954. Most likely, it was sold to Northwestern Steel & Wire in Sterling, IL. There is some possibility that 509 might've gone to a south Chicago area steel mill, but I don't know for sure one way or the other. Perhaps, Hol will know.
IF 509 went to NWS&W, I have never seen an image of it in service there as a plant switcher. Again, most likely it was scrapped. If 509 went to another scrapper, again, I do not know. Again, most likely scrapped. I've attached an image of 509 at 14th Street Chicago from the BRHS Flicker Gallery - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
In a message dated 2/23/2021 5:34:21 PM Central Standard Time, qutlx1=aol.com@groups.io writes:
Hol and Louis,
Can you confirm 509 went to Northwestern and when ? Did it go straight to scrap or serve as a plant engine for awhile ?
I ask because there’s a family connection to 509. The photo in BRHS Bulletin 51 shows the 509 behind the Aurora tower headed toward “the alley”. My grandfather is the shorter of the two men on the foot boards. The taller man is Leo Boirsdorf(sp). They worked the Alley Job for years together and before that in the east yard at Eola.
They were best buds In retirement and took me to steam tractor shows.
A model of 509 is resting in a prominent place on a bookshelf in my office.
Thanks,
Leo Phillipp
On Feb 23, 2021, at 5:12 PM, HOL WAGNER <holpennywagner@msn.com> wrote:
Bob and List:
I was wrong in my previous statement. In checking my records I find that, although Corbin listed only one of the 10 G-5s and being sold for scrap, in fact all 10 were sold for scrap, not scrapped by the company. And at least three of them ended up in service for Northwestern Steel & Wire at Sterling. NWS&W's practice in numbering locomotives was to simply paint out existing locomotive numbers, leaving only a single numeral between 1 and 9. In the case of the G-5s, they painted out the "50" of the three they kept in service for a time and thus Q 503, 504 and 506 became NWS&W 3, 4 and 6.
Sorry for misstating the Q number of the engine in the photograph, and thanks to Louis Zadnichek for catching my mistake.
Hol
From: Hol Wagner <holpennywagner@msn.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 1:53 PM
To: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [CBQ] 0-6-0 No. 3?
Bob:
Yes, that's definitely the former Q 504, which worked for several years as NWS&W No. 3 at Sterling.
Hol
From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> on behalf of Bob Yarger via groups.io <bobyar2001=yahoo.com@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2021 12:55 PM
To: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io>
Subject: [CBQ] 0-6-0 No. 3?
Here is a puzzler. The CB&Q got ten USRA 0-6-0's from Cooke in 1919. All were listed as scrapped in 1954 except No. 504, listed as "sold for scrap 12-54". They were class G5, Nos. 500-509. This engine definitely has a Burlington "clock"-type headlight, so I wonder if the 504 escaped scrapping to work somewhere else (Northwest Steel & Wire at Sterling, IL?) before finally being cut up? https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0b/0d/3b/0b0d3b01e6e916d7f3c2cd2ee0163e49.jpg
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