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Re: [CBQ] Burlington & Missouri River Railroad caboose

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Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2020 23:44:34 +0000 (UTC)
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April 11, 2020

Alan and Rupert - The following link has some additional information:


It also states that the A&N way car was constructed at the Plattmouth, NE, Shops - Louis

Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL

In a message dated 4/11/2020 6:25:43 PM Central Standard Time, gamlenz@hotmail.com writes:

Alan

A&N #6 was built about 1879 (the company was sold to B&MR in 1880) while B&MR #144 was built in about 1901. The construction would have obviously differed but the lettering on the side would have been constant.

A number of the directors of the A&N were also CB&Q (B&MR) directors so it is possible that A&N #6 was constructed in the B&MR shops.

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ


From: CBQ@groups.io <CBQ@groups.io> On Behalf Of Alan Kraus
Sent: Sunday, 12 April 2020 10:50 am
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Burlington & Missouri River Railroad caboose

 

Mario - thanks for the observations.  You make good points.  Also, I know the siding on the waycar as it is today is not original.  The fellas that bought it from the town of Maitland, MO noted that the car was in ruins.....the Maitland, MO fire department wanted to burn it as an exercise!  They noted that about the only thing original about the caboose are the trucks, the steel underframe, and the hardware!


alan

 

On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 3:40 PM mmar_62 <mmar62@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi, Alan.

First fo all, sorry if I enter in this discussion a bit late.

I'm not an expert on CB&Q cabooses, but as I far as I see there are many differences between the two vehicles in these photos, so my thesis is that they are of a different series or even of different builders.

See the number of vertical wood planks on the sides of the upper window: in the 23 they are six at each side plus the border one, in the 144 there are many more (and thinner ones). The same can be said in the number of wood planks between the three down windows.

See also the style of the horizontal stripe of wood above the little "corner windows" that you note. It's totally different.

If originally they were identical vehicles, some very big reconstruction was done in the 23.

Sorry if my observations don't shed some light on your discussion.

Best regards,

Mario (a CB&Q fan form Chile, South America)

 

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