Alan, the book Waycars of the Chicago Burlington & Quincy by Daniel Holbrook has been out of print for many, many years. It is very difficult to find. The Burlington Waycars book by Mile Post Publishing is very, very comprehensive, and appears it is still be available from the publisher. https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Burlington-Waycars-CB-Q-Burlington-Route-Cabooses-New-/333227147022 Doug Harding www.iowacentralrr.org From: CBQ@groups.io [mailto:CBQ@groups.io] On Behalf Of Alan Kraus
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2020 2:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Burlington & Missouri River Railroad caboose #11 color... Randy - thanks for your thoughts. I hadn't tried to get that book. I see there is another book titled Waycars of the Chicago Burlington & Quincy by Daniel Holbrook and was trying to decide which one to get. It's good to know the Daniell, et. al. book has that information. I'll locate a copy. I realize, or imagine lots of folks just pick a dark red color when painting cabooses and other red rolling stock. It would be good to have an accurate color, in addition to proper lettering. I will research this before I arrive at the color. I have a house painting project to work on before the caboose work so I have a little time to figure it out. Alan By the way - I think your museum has a former Uintah Railway locomotive! Our historical society has several pieces of Uintah Railway rolling stock preserved at Cross Orchards Living History farm in Grand Junction. We'd love to have #12 here if you folks ever decide you don't need it! Looking at that picture can anyone hazard a guess as to what color it was? On April 13, 2020 at 2:48 PM Randy Hees <randyhees@gmail.com> wrote: With a 1880 build date, your car was originally a wood underframe, link and pin drawbar, hand brake only car... A very different beast than it is today after being rebuilt many times. Before you paint it red and letter it for B&MR you may want to look at the car and its history and chart the changes... Then pick a paint style appropriate to the car as it sits... There is a book by Randall Danniel, Marian Reis and Joseph Douda, The Burlington Waycars,Mile Post Publishing, West Burlington Iowa,2012... It includes several photos of B&MR waycars, including No 11, which is clearly in light color, with dark lettering and dark window sash, a photo B&MR 159 is in dark paint with light lettering (and shows the truss rod underframe) In the roster section It says your car was built in Plattsmouth, and was at one time Atchison & Northern No 6. Director Nevada State Railroad Museum, Boulder City I am the proud owner of Burlington & Missouri River Railroad caboose #23. As you probably know, the Burlington & Missouri River Railroad was a subsidiary of the CB&Q. The caboose was later lettered for the CB&Q (#14120) and even later the Burlington Northern (#11025). It was built in 1880 and retired by the BN in 1977. The waycar needs a new coat of paint and I thought I would letter it for the Burlington and Missouri River. I'm wondering if there are any photographs of Burlington and Missouri River rolling stock so I could see how it was lettered....i.e. B&MR, B&MR RR, etc. and the lettering type. Also, I assume their cabooses were red but I'm not sure. I'm hoping someone can help me.
The caboose was donated to the city of Maitland, MO when it was retired. A couple fellas from Boulder, CO purchased it and moved to Bouilder. I purchased it from them and moved it to western Colorado.
Alan Kraus
Grand Junction, CO
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