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Re: [CBQ] Brand of Steam Whistles for C&S engines

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Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 16:48:52 -0600
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I used this "Sounds from the Steam Locomotive" CD that Kirby shows in his email (I think it cost $10) to decide what whistle to use in my Tsunami sound decoders.  For the Tsunami2 TSU-2200 decoders, I felt like the best match (for road engines) was C&S #801, which is value #9 in CV 120.  This was also the selection that I used in the older Tsunami TSU-1000.  For my 0-8-0 with a Tsunami TSU-1000, I used the "C&S #74 (Road Mix).  I used an Econami ECO-100 in my 0-6-0, and selected the SP GS-4 #4449 as the closest match (value #12 in CV 120).  You can also determine the desired match for the bell and the chuff by listening to this CD (although that took me numerous replays of the CB&Q and C&S CD tracks to feel relatively content with my selections for these).

Scott Myers

On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 8:31 PM Kirby Lambert <kirby@prospectortech.com> wrote:
You might try to get a copy of the attached CD. This is a pic of the index side.


Kirby Lambert

On Nov 18, 2018, at 8:04 PM, homanfamily wrote:

The Folkways CD I noted yesterday is # FX 6153.  There are 15 cuts of Q steam locomotive, starting with 510; several #4900s and the rest are 5100 5300 and 5500 locomotives.  There is one  ut ot #7000 double headed with 5500.  These are available through the Smithsonian.  The recordings were made in the fifties by a chap who loaded his station wagon with very high tech equipment.  The recordings came across qhiet will on my stereo. 
    There are three other CD’s with steam sounds.  I think one of them has other Q engines.  Hope this helps.
                                                                                                            Pat Homan
 
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Brand of Steam Whistles for C&S engines
 
There is a recording of Q and C&S steam on Folkways records, which are available from the Smithsonian.  I have a copy in the basesment and I will post the specifics tomorrow.
                                                                                                                                Pat Homan
 
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2018 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Brand of Steam Whistles for C&S engines
 
Whoops, #801 wasn't an O4 maybe after all but one of the C&S light mikes maybe?  It probably lasted long enough that good sound recordings of it existed to make a basic audio track to go off for creating a DCC chip sound profile.  I have no idea if this terminology is correct but it does sound like I sort of know what I'm talking about!
 
Mike


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From: Mike Martin via Groups.Io <atsf3460=aol.com@groups.io>
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Sent: Sat, Nov 17, 2018 1:05 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Brand of Steam Whistles for C&S engines

I was thinking of using one of the Santa Fe style whistle sounds for the Burlington Route.  If you watch the video on YouTube of the #1522 southbound out of Galesburg returning to St. Louis from Railroad Days one year she's using a real "Q" whistle and it's a bit of a screecher.  The note on the video says it's a 5 chime whistle.  I know who the videographer is and he's well versed on steam locomotives so I don't have any reason to not think this is a real Burlington Route whistle.  The #1522 was a very loud locomotive too so my plan is to use the sounds of #1522 to approximate Burlington Hudsons and 4-8-4s which were also apparently "loudmouths" along with using the Santa Fe passenger whistle.  Santa Fe used two different whistles... one for freight and a more melodious version for passenger. 
 
Wait to get past the video of the #1522 on its home turf where shes using her standard deep steamboat whistle. 
 
 
Here's a sample of a DCC decoder from Soundtraxx with a Santa Fe step top 6 chime whistle...
 
 
Here's a Soundtraxx file of Colorado and Southern #801 as well... wasn't she one of our O4 2-8-2 mikes we've been talking about?
 
 
Mike Martin


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Sent: Sat, Nov 17, 2018 11:31 am
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Brand of Steam Whistles for C&S engines

Maybe I should rephrase this, what whistle would sound right for different C&S steam engines, I would guess the 50’s era purchases of USRA Mikes would keep what they had on the CBQ but haven’t heard any recordings.  Did C&S use any kind of standard whistle on most of their steamers? Steve Near Walla Walla


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