Re: [CBQ] CB&Q Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers Rates effective 12/16/53

["Louis Zadnichek via Groups.Io" <LZadnichek=aol.com@groups.io>]

September 28, 2018

 

Bill - THANKS for providing this information. Your table reproduced OK for me.  Interesting data. Relatively little difference in pay regardless of weight on drivers, although in those days every penny counted, much more so than today.  At least we now know that the engineer on Class M-4-A No. 6315 got a little bit more that his counterpart on Class O-5-B No. 5632 when they double headed from Chicago to Galesburg on that well remembered fan trip in the early 1960s. And, correct me if I'm wrong, we're talking 16 hour work days in 1953. Best Regards - Louis 

 

Louis Zadnichek II

Fairhope, AL 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: William Hirt <whirt@fastmail.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Sep 28, 2018 2:22 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] CB&Q Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers Rates effective 12/16/53

Louis,

Hopefully this table will come out OK. If not, I have attached a Adobe PDF file showing pay rates established in this agreement.

CB&Q Engineers' Rates of Pay
Effective December 16, 1953
Weight on Drivers	Class	Freight			Way Freight			Passenger
		Overtime & Arbitrary Hourly Rates			Overtime & Arbitrary Hourly Rates			Overtime & Arbitrary Hourly Rates
		Daily Rates	Pro Rata	Punitive	Daily Rates	Pro Rata	Punitive	Daily Rates	## Pro Rata	#Punitive
100,700 lbs	K-2	$15.73	$1.9675	$2.95	$16.25	$2.0325	$3.0475	$14.91	$1.9250	$2.7975
121,400 lbs	K-4	$15.73	$1.9675	$2.95	$16.25	$2.0325	$3.0475	$14.91	$1.9250	$2.7975
156,300 lbs	S-2-A	$16.16	$2.02	$3.03	$16.68	$2.0850	$3.1275	$14.99	$1.9250	$2.8125
156,480 lbs	S-1-A	$16.16	$2.02	$3.03	$16.68	$2.0850	$3.1275	$14.99	$1.9250	$2.8125
165,278 lbs	R-4-A	$16.16	$2.02	$3.03	$16.68	$2.0850	$3.1275	$14.99	$1.9250	$2.8125
172,292 lbs	G-5-A	$16.16	$2.02	$3.03	$16.68	$2.0850	$3.1275	$15.08	$1.9250	$2.8275
192,600 lbs	G-10	$16.16	$2.02	$3.03	$16.68	$2.0850	$3.1275	$15.08	$1.9250	$2.8275
200,542 lbs	S-4	$16.33	$2.0425	$3.0625	$16.85	$2.1075	$3.16	$15.17	$1.9250	$2.8450
219,942 lbs	F-1	$16.33	$2.0425	$3.0625	$16.85	$2.1075	$3.16	$15.17	$1.9250	$2.8450
227,000 lbs	O-2	$16.33	$2.0425	$3.0625	$16.85	$2.1075	$3.16	$15.17	$1.9250	$2.8450
231,202 lbs	S-4-A	$16.33	$2.0425	$3.0625	$16.85	$2.1075	$3.16	$15.17	$1.9250	$2.8450
231,202 lbs	S-4-B	$16.33	$2.0425	$3.0625	$16.85	$2.1075	$3.16	$15.17	$1.9250	$2.8450
233,852 lbs	O-1-A	$16.33	$2.0425	$3.0625	$16.85	$2.1075	$3.16	$15.17	$1.9250	$2.8450
238,260 lbs	O-4	$16.33	$2.0425	$3.0625	$16.85	$2.1075	$3.16	$15.17	$1.9250	$2.8450
249,144 lbs	B-1-A	$16.33	$2.0425	$3.0625	$16.85	$2.1075	$3.16	$15.17	$1.9250	$2.8450
252,992 lbs	O-3	$16.48	$2.06	$3.09	$17.00	$2.1250	$3.1875	$15.25	$1.9250	$2.8600
*281,408 lbs	O-5-A	$16.63	$2.08	$3.12	$17.15	$2.1450	$3.2175	$15.34	$1.9250	$2.8775
*281,408 lbs	O-5-B	$16.63	$2.08	$3.12	$17.15	$2.1450	$3.2175	$15.34	$1.9250	$2.8775
*Next higher wage bracket applied to O-5-A and O-5-B locomotives (4-8-4 type) per Diesel Agreement of January 25, 1944.
*333,427 lbs	M-4-A	$16.84	$2.1050	$3.1575	$17.36	$2.1700	$3.2550	$15.42	$1.9275	$2.8925
*Next higher wage bracket applied to M-4-A locomotives (2-10-4 type) per Diesel Agreement of January 25, 1944.
#Has application only to swg. Art. 2, Sec. 1, Agree. Jan. 10, 1941.
##Applies to all other overtime and arbitrary payments.

Bill Hirt

On 9/27/2018 3:20 PM, Louis Zadnichek via Groups.Io wrote:

September 27, 2018

Leo and Nolen - Perhaps, another Group member can provide an appendix for weight on drivers for all classes of steam power still in use by 1953.  This amended later edition only shows weight on drivers for the two fan trip locomotives, the 5632 and 4960.  Best Regards - Louis

Louis Zadnichek II

Fairhope, AL

In a message dated 9/27/2018 3:15:45 PM Central Standard Time, qutlx1=aol.com@groups.io writes:

Nolen,

But to those who used these more or less on a daily basis to determine their pay, this was very, very good reading.

Leo

On Sep 27, 2018, at 2:50 PM, Nolen Null via Groups.Io <NNull=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Group,

This can put me to sleep faster than driving 15 hours in mist and rain to get back to Baltimore last Monday after the annual fall meet in Quincy (it was great!):

http://blet622.com/uploads/3/4/5/2/34527325/cbq_schedule.pdf

Nolen Null

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