Re: [CBQ] Burlington Bulletin No. 55

["jpslhedgpeth via Groups.Io" <jpslhedgpeth=aol.com@groups.io>]

Thanks Charley..the detour idea came to me when I was about through writing my post..Turned out somebody else had beat me to it.  The detour would have been as I mentioned up to St. Joe and then east...

Pete

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From: Charley Hill <chill4@neb.rr.com>
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Pete, if you look at the photo, you can see on the right side of the Silver Terrace that it says “Kansas City Zephyr”. Again, probably a detour for some reason.

 

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This is NOT the KC Zephyr..the KCZ turned east at Ustick Tower just north of the River at KC MO.  East Leavenworth is well along the way to St. Joe...ALTHOUGH it could be a detour move and the KCZ had to be routed east via St. Joe..which you can't do any more since there is no railroad between St. Joe and Brookfield.  Is that the trainmaster standing there with his hands in his pockets??

 

Pete

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Louis,

Having lived for a few years in East Leavenworth, this would be the Kansas City Zephyr…probably a detour of some kind. The Silver Terrace was her Observation car. Never saw her go by while I lived there, but I thought it normally went East out of Kansas City?

 

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July 9, 2018

 

Pete - Thanks, I appreciate your showing the picture to the Omaha members of your Railfan Club.  I have another "mystery" Denver Zephyr image to share that's attached. The undated image off the Internet shows the Silver Terrace and Denver Zephyr stopped at East Leavenworth, MO. Could this be a detour move or one of the Exhibition Trains? Comments, anyone?  - Louis

 

Louis Zadnichek II

Fairhope, AL   

 

In a message dated 7/9/2018 8:06:16 AM Central Standard Time, jpslhedgpeth=aol.com@groups.io writes:

 

Louis..Dave et all....I have an idea as to where in Omaha that picture was taken, but I won't "posit" my idea publicallly until I get some confirmation which I hope to do tomorrow evening...

 

We have a couple of guys in our Local Railfan's Club who are from Omaha and know "everything...even way to much" About Omaha...Our club meets tomorrow night and i've printed out Louis's photo and will take it and see if my idea "holds water". 

 

It's a great picture and I hope we can get the location pinned down...

 

Pete...I'll be back on here Wednesday morning with whatever I can find out.  

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July 8, 2018

 

Dave - I've scanned and attached the glossy 8x10 print taken of my dad M.L. Zadnichek posed with one of the new Denver Zephyr train sets "somewhere" in the Omaha, NE, metro area on one leg of a long wye during 1956.  The lead motor appears to be E5 No. 9915A.  The original photograph was taken by a news photographer with WOW-TV and given to my dad.  Back alongside the train are the conductor and flagman. Perhaps, Pete or one of our other Lines West old timers can ID the exact location. Perhaps, from the consist, some other reader might be able to definitely say what train set this was and date it.

 

The wye leg was long enough to hold the entire Zephyr with room to spare. For some reason, Pacific Junction sticks in my mind, but the wye could've been elsewhere. Dad was at the time the Assistant Omaha Division Superintendent with his office located in the old Burlington Station in downtown Omaha. I would've been 10 years old when this news photograph was snapped.  If you plan to have a future BB follow-up on the "new" Denver Zephyr as you did on the "old," please feel free to use this image if you want.  Credit M.L. Zadnichek Collection. It's going to take me a week to fully read BB No. 55. Best Regards - Louis

 

Louis Zadnichek II

Fairhope, AL       

 

In a message dated 7/8/2018 2:56:16 PM Central Standard Time, Dave_Lotz@bellsouth.net writes:

 

Thanks for the positieve comments Louis.

 

I look forward to seeing that photo of your Dad and the DZ!

 

Dave Lotz

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July 7, 2018

 

All - Received my copy of BB No. 55 earlier this week.  In a word, AWESOME!  When the call went out some time ago for materials to be used in the issue, I had an 8x10 glossy of my Dad posed in front of the Denver Zephyr that was stretched out behind on a wye in Nebraska. I had planned to submit that photograph, but forgot.  Dad was assistant division superintendent at Omaha in 1956. I'll have to find that photograph and post it here. I was aware of the menu paintings, but never knew who the artist was until Randal told us "the rest of the story." I hope a number of Kathryn Fligg's Denver Zephyr wild flower paintings displayed inside the train have survived in someone's collection. My congratulations to John Schultz and the entire BB staff for putting out such a remarkable publication on the "new" Denver Zephry of the 1950-1960's. Best Regards - Louis

 

Louis Zadnichek II

Fairhope, AL   

 

In a message dated 7/7/2018 12:47:47 AM Central Standard Time, rot@ti.org writes:

 

The Burlington Bulletin on the 1956 Denver Zephyr is a beautiful book and tremendous work of scholarship. I commend John Schultz and the Burlington Route Historical Society, and I can see that I’m going to spend a few hours reading through it.

 

One addition tidbit of information. Page 50 has pictures of several menus used on the Denver Zephyr that feature wildflower paintings on their covers. The text says the paintings were done by “an anonymous artist.”

 

Actually, the paintings were done by Kathryn Fligg, an artist who graduated from the Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts in 1951 and was commissioned by Budd (probably through the Paul Crét architectural firm) to do paintings and murals in several of its trains. She did murals for the Kansas City Zephyr and I believe she did some murals in other Burlington trains such as the Twin Cities Zephyr and California Zephyr when those trains came in for reshopping.

 

But the Denver Zephyr was her finest work, at least for Budd. The five wildflower menu covers shown on page 50 only hint at her achievement. According to an email she sent me, she in fact produced 115 wildflower paintings for the train. The original paintings were hung in the bedrooms and compartments of the Denver Zephyr sleeping cars.

 

In the email, Fligg told me she didn’t think the roomettes got paintings. But I don’t know where to put 115 paintings if the roomettes didn’t get any. Bulletin 50 indicates there were 30 roomettes, 24 bedrooms, and 5 compartments per train, so for two trains that makes 58 bedrooms and compartments or 116 bedrooms, compartments, and roomettes. So it sounds like the roomettes probably got them as well (and perhaps her memory of doing 115 paintings was off by one).

 

The paintings on the front (and back) covers of the dinner menus (as well as on the Colorado room beverage menu) were replicas of a few of those 115 paintings.

 

Fligg (now Kathryn Fligg Lee) has at least two different web sites, but the work displayed doesn’t look anything like the work she did for Budd.

 

I’ve wondered if any of the surviving Denver Zephyr sleeping cars still have some of her original paintings. If anyone knows, please let me know. It would be nice to document those paintings.

 

Best,

 

Randal O’Toole

http://streamlinermemories.info

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