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Greetings everyone, Otto Perry took the following still images of the ATSF on the Q; OP-2194 7/15/51 Alco PA #68+ Derby CO 13 cars @ 55mph OP-2196 7/15/51 Alco PA #75+ 'The Chief' Derby CO 13 cars @ 70mph Otto took several stills on the Joint Line on the same day. And other days too, in July 1951. If Mr Perry was there, it is possible that Mr Kindig was there too. Because of the 1951 emergency all diesels were pressed into service pulling the back log from CA east. Very unlikely that any steamers went east over the Q at that time. After 1953 steam was rare on the Joint Line. I am uncertain as to who crewed the detoured diesels over the Q in 1951. My guess would be ATSF enginemen with a CB&Q crew acting as pilots. Part of the negotiations were not only between the ATSF and the CB&Q, but also between the local committees of the engineers, firemen and trainmen. No wonder it took time to organize the detours. I am not aware of images of ATSF steamers on the Q. Having said that I can say that ATSF steamers sometimes ran over the C&S's Denver-Colorado Springs line. Given the close relationship between the ATSF and the CB&Q, and given that emergencies did sometimes arise, it is possible that ATSF steamers did run over the Q. In Superior NE, ATSF engines ran over CB&Q tracks for a short distance switching and turning trains. Incidentally, C&S engine men ran ATSF steamers, as called, over the Joint Line in the early years due to the unique Joint Operating Agreement and the labour agreements in force at the time. And ATSF crews C&S trains. Thank you all for your excellent contributions to date. :-) Oh, yes. Otto Perry's "Santa Fe" is on CD. Mostly diesels but many steamers; exceptional photography! Mark From: "LZadnichek@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2017, 8:13 Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: 1952 flooding January 31, 2017
Mark and Hol - Did the Santa Fe (Uncle Pete to you real old timers....) run
their own steam locomotives on detoured trains over the Q? Sometime in the past,
I've seen images of Santa Fe diesel streamliners detouring, but I've never seen
an image of a Santa Fe steam locomotive running over the Q east of Denver, or
west from Chicago for that matter. Did Otto Perry or any
others photograph any such scenes? Best Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
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