Re: [CBQ] Deliveries to Heileman Brewery in LaCrosse

["qutlx1@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>]

Following up on my prior post below. I've checked the tank car commodity manuals here

In the office. Carbon Dioxide(CO2) was shipped in DOT class 105A500W tank cars with

5" of foam insulation. During the time the Q existence these would have been 10-11,000 gallon pressure tanks, almost identical to the chlorine tanks. Starting in the 70s these cars became 20,000 gallons. 

Cryogenic tanks were(are but pretty rare) class 204W or 113W and carrying extremely cold products such as liquified hydrogen and other super cold commodities. A cryogenic car is unique in that there is no manway nozzle. The car consists of two tanks. An inner tank supported in rods attached to the outer tank. The space in between 

Is called the annulus and is filled with perlite or other inert insulation. Perlite is actually

A natural occurring item that is mined near Alamosa,CO and shipped out in covered hoppers. Think about potting soil and the little white balls found in it and you'll know what perlite looks like. The space between the tanks is packed with Perlite and then sealed and pressurized. The biggest maintenance expense on Cryogenic cars is maintaining that pressure and insulation, along with the valves. These cars are becoming hard to find as maintenance is very expensive as well as the lease ,rates to support all that maintenance.

When a cryogenic car goes to tank car heaven it is scrapped in a special handling process. Think about that box you got from Amazon with all the fiberglass balls. The minute you opened it they went all over. Now multiply that 1,000 fold when you cut into a cryogenic car !

Leo

On Nov 16, 2016, at 12:47 PM, Qutlx1 <qutlx1@aol.com> wrote:

In the 60s corn syrup moved in IXC8s, then about mid decade the IXC10s were built and in the 70s they moved to IXC 16s. IXC stands for insulated,exterior coils.

I'm on the road so I'll confirm when I get home but my memory is a CO2 car was not cryogenic, just a 500 lb tank with extra ins.

Leo Phillipp

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On Nov 16, 2016, at 10:21 AM, thommack@yahoo.com [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

According to the list of Industries Served by the CB&Q on the BRHS website (http://burlingtonroute.com/docs/route/industries.html) Heileman Brewing in La Crosse received diatomaceous earth, carbon dioxide, and corn syrup by rail.

Diatomaceous earth is listed as an inbound commodity for the other breweries on the list as well, and also the sugar plants. Does anyone know how this came into the breweries? My first thought was possibly in HC-1 covered hoppers since they carried a lot of clay and betonite. The CB&Q LO-7's were also used to carry clay. Nut I don't see anything in any of my wheel reports on covered hoppers carrying diatomaceous earth. Interestingly, there is a GN 40' boxcar carrying "EARTH" that is going to OLIMATCHE (Oling Mathieson Chemicals) in Joliet. Since diatomaceous earth is often used as a filter material, it makes sense that it would be used in the chemical industry and breweries. I also got to thinking that because of it nature it may have been shipped bagged in box cars. Can anyone confirm?

The carbon dioxide is a standard commodity for all the breweries on the CB&Q industries list. Would that have come in by cryogenic tank car? BLI recently released a cryogenic tank car and I have one coming in. Was hoping that the brewery might be the spot for cryogenic CO2 deliveries! 

COrn syrup I would imagine came in in tank cars, but does anyone know what type(s) of tank cars might have been used in the mid- to late-60's for corn syrup delivery to breweries?

Finally, as an FYI, the breweries also all received grits. I can confirm from wheel reports that grits bound for Hamm's brewery we carried on the Q in CB&Q HC-3 3219 cu ft PS-2 3-bay covered hoppers. So that one I have covered!

Tom Mack

Cincinnati, OH

 

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