Re: [CBQ] Deliveries to Heileman Brewery in LaCrosse

["CenturyLink Customer rksmes@q.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>]

In the 1960's, I worked at the Kurth Malting Co. in Minneapolis as the engineer responsible for the maintenance crew.

There were two operations, the malting of barley and the "receiving" elevator for all 3 of the Kurth malt plants.  At

that time, the "rules" of the Grain Exchange in Minneapolis allowed the refusal of boxcars of barley if they were not

good but only in Minneapolis.  The box cars were received only after a sample of barley was checked at the plant.

If the car was "plugged" with junk like grain dust it also could be refused.  The receiving terminal elevator cleaned and

graded the barley.  Small kernels were shipped to Duluth for export.  The "good" stuff was shipped to Milwaukee,

Manitowoc or used in Minneapolis for malting.  All of the other major malting companies also had a "terminal"

elevator operation in Minneapolis.  A few years later the "rules" changed and the terminal elevators all closed.
I remember that malted barley was loaded in covered hoppers and some was shipped to Heileman in LaCrosse.

Bob Sorensen

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From: "'Nolen Null' NNull@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 8:24:26 PM
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Deliveries to Heileman Brewery in LaCrosse

 

Tom,

 

Let's not forget Hubinger Corn Products (now Roquette) in Keokuk IA.  If you search the internet you may be able find photos of some of their 'OK' brand corn syrup tank cars that they leased.  As I recall seeing them, they used several different sizes.

 

Nolen Null

 

 

From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2016 4:02 PM
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Deliveries to Heileman Brewery in LaCrosse

 

 

Tom,

One things you always need to consider when looking at industry lists is that there is usually a generic table that was used to fill in commodities shipped and/or received. That is because in most cases one has to make assumptions about what a specific industry received or shipped. Doug Harding, who is on this list, helped develop an Input/Output list of received and shipped products for various industries. This was done for the NMRA Operations SIG industrial database.

For breweries, it lists:

Brewing	Beer	Spent mash (wort?)	Diatomaceous earth	Shipping containers
Brewing	Beer		CO2 (tank cars)	Mty kegs, bottles
Brewing	Beer		Corn, wheat, hops, malt	Tinplate, glass sand, cullet

I see Leo answered about CO2. For corn syrup, the type of car would depend on the shipper. Tangent Scale Models just announced a new 8000 gallon riveted radial course General American tank car. One of the paint schemes is based on actual photos is A. E. Staley Co (AESX)  in Decatur IL for corn syrup service.

Clinton Corn Products in Clinton IA and Corn Products Company in North Kansas City MO would be other sources.

Moving empty bottles and kegs back to the brewery in a revenue return move is often overlooked.

Bill Hirt

On 11/16/2016 10:21 AM, thommack@yahoo.com [CBQ] wrote:

According to the list of Industries Served by the CB&Q on the BRHS website (http://burlingtonroute.com/docs/route/industries.html) Heileman Brewing in La Crosse received diatomaceous earth, carbon dioxide, and corn syrup by rail.

 

Diatomaceous earth is listed as an inbound commodity for the other breweries on the list as well, and also the sugar plants. Does anyone know how this came into the breweries? My first thought was possibly in HC-1 covered hoppers since they carried a lot of clay and betonite. The CB&Q LO-7's were also used to carry clay. Nut I don't see anything in any of my wheel reports on covered hoppers carrying diatomaceous earth. Interestingly, there is a GN 40' boxcar carrying "EARTH" that is going to OLIMATCHE (Oling Mathieson Chemicals) in Joliet. Since diatomaceous earth is often used as a filter material, it makes sense that it would be used in the chemical industry and breweries. I also got to thinking that because of it nature it may have been shipped bagged in box cars. Can anyone confirm?

 

The carbon dioxide is a standard commodity for all the breweries on the CB&Q industries list. Would that have come in by cryogenic tank car? BLI recently released a cryogenic tank car and I have one coming in. Was hoping that the brewery might be the spot for cryogenic CO2 deliveries! 

 

COrn syrup I would imagine came in in tank cars, but does anyone know what type(s) of tank cars might have been used in the mid- to late-60's for corn syrup delivery to breweries?

 

Finally, as an FYI, the breweries also all received grits. I can confirm from wheel reports that grits bound for Hamm's brewery we carried on the Q in CB&Q HC-3 3219 cu ft PS-2 3-bay covered hoppers. So that one I have covered!

 

Tom Mack

Cincinnati, OH

 

 

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