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RE: [CBQ] Re: Intermountain F3 Issue

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Subject: RE: [CBQ] Re: Intermountain F3 Issue
From: "Nelson Moyer npmoyer@hotmail.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 19:19:38 +0000
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Thread-topic: [CBQ] Re: Intermountain F3 Issue


Not sure where this came from, but I thought it was from the BRHS site.

ROSTER OF CB&Q DIESELS

BY NUMBER:

1 - 2

 

Plymouth DL6

 

100   1st

 

Mack 30T

 

101   1st

 

Whitcomb 12T

 

111   1st

 

Porter 44T

 

112   1st

 

Whitcomb 60T

 

100 AD - 115 AD 2nd

 

FT A

 

100 BC - 115 BC 2nd

 

FT B

 

100 – 105   3rd

 

U25B

 

106 – 115   3rd

 

U28B

 

116 AD - 138 AD

 

F3 A

 

116 BC - 138 BC

 

F3 B

 

140 – 149

 

U28B

 

150 A - 154 A      1st

 

F2 A

 

150 B - 154 B      1st

 

FT B

Ex-00 BC, 101 B, 102 B,201 C

150 C - 154 C      1st

 

FT A

Ex-00 AD, 101 A, 102 A,201 D

150-154              2nd

 

U30C

 

150-153

C&S

NW2

 

154

C&S

SW7

 

155 A - 159 A

 

FT A

Ex-202 D, 103 AD, 104 AD

155 B - 159 B

 

FT B

Ex-202 C, 103 BC, 104 BC

155 C - 159 C

 

F2 A

 

155

C&S

SW1

Ex-9146

156-160

C&S

SW1200

 

160 AC - 162 AC

 

F3 A

 

160 B - 162 B

 

F3 B

 

163 AC - 166 AC

 

F7 A

 

163 B - 166 B

 

F3 B

 

167 AC - 169 AC

 

F7 A

 

167 B - 169 B

 

F7 B

 

 

 

From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 2:08 PM
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com; CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Intermountain F3 Issue

 



The rosters on the BRHS website are correct. I can't vouch for anything found in the files section.

 

Bryan J. Howell

BRHS Roster Page Custodian

 

 

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 1:59 PM, LZadnichek@aol.com [CBQ]

<CBQ@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

September 23, 2016

 

Nelson - I'm not an expert on Q diesels, but since the EMD badge plate says F3 and your research says 166C was a F7, we've got a mystery here. Perhaps someone like Hol or Bill Barber can figure this one out. Maybe 166C is one of those "left over" F3 A units you mentioned earlier. Would be interesting to find out. Best Regards - Louis 

 

In a message dated 9/23/2016 1:41:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:

 

I checked the diesel roster in the in the files section and it says that 166 AC units were F7s, while the 166B unit was F3. Maybe the A units were rebuilt?

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 1:21 PM
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Intermountain F3 Issue

 



September 23, 2016

 

Nelson - If you enlarge the EMD badge plate beneath the cab, sure looks like "F3" to me. In any event, always a pleasure to share images with our Group. Best Regards - Louis

 

In a message dated 9/23/2016 12:25:18 P.M. Central Daylight Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:



166C is an F7, not F3, so these are two late F7s, and the photo was taken in the 1960 in all probability. My layout cutoff is 1953. According to BB#4, some F3s were broken up and couples with F7s for an ABA set. There was no mention for how they used the other F3 A unit.

 

Thanks for the photo, always nice to add to the photo collection.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 11:19 AM
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Intermountain F3 Issue [1 Attachment]

 

[Attachment(s) from LZadnichek@aol.com included below]

September 23, 2016

 

Nelson - Here is photographic proof that the Q did couple F3's in an A-A configuration. This inserted/attached image is unidentified as to location and is undated.

 

 

This is the only image I've ever seen of F3's coupled A-A style. So, such a configuration must've been a fairly rare event, but it did happen. Best Regards - Louis

 

Louis Zadnichek II

Fairhope, AL  

 

In a message dated 9/23/2016 6:45:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:



Nelson,

 

Actually the Q ran ABA and ABBA sets of F's almost until the merger! For example, I just ran across this ABBA lashup in mid-1968: http://condrenrails.com/CB&Q/F7.html

 

There is a photo in Spoor's CB&Q Volume 2 page 68 of an F3A (124-D) F3B set sitting at Savanna in June 1966.

 

So, we do need B-units.

 

These are just the photos I have logged for the C&I, and I just ran across the ABBA going into Galesburg this week. It really caught my eye because it was an ABBA set and very late in the 60's.

 

Tom Mack

Cincinnati, OH



---In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, <npmoyer@...> wrote :

I was just notified by my dealer that Intermountain canceled the B units of ABA and ABBA  F-3 sets without any previous notification to those who preordered. They will ship only A units beginning September 26. If you ordered sets with B units, and the Q only ran sets until around 1960 as far as I know, you may wish to cancel your orders. Otherwise, you’ll be left with a bunch of A units, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen a photo of two A units running back to back.

 

Extremely disappointed would be putting it mildly.

 

Nelson Moyer

 

 

 


















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