Re: [CBQ] Re: Indian Warpath Train Order

["LZadnichek@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>]

June 17, 2015

 

Hol - Many thanks for sharing the L-1 images. Other than the one builder's photograph in the Corbin book, these are the first images I've ever seen of the Q's 0-10-0 helper locomotives. I'll retract my earlier comment about them being "odd looking." Instead, let me say they were massive beasts for their time, no doubt about it. Plus, they had a certain big, brawny handsomeness to them, as well, what with the graphited smoke box, shotgun stack, Belpaire boiler and oversize cab. And that they lasted 25 years, that's testament to a good design that worked for their assigned role as helpers. The only negatives that I can assume is that the L-1s with their weight and rigid wheelbase must've been hard on the track at any speed over helping a train up a grade. Plus, in those pre-stoker days, it must've taken two firemen and the head end brakeman to keep one hot when shoving for all they were worth. I bet the 0-10-0s were LOUD, too..... Again, thanks for sharing your wonderful L-1 images. I look forward to reading your planned article about them. Best Regards - Louis

 

Louis Zadnichek II

Fairhope, AL      

 

In a message dated 6/17/2015 8:21:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:

[Attachment(s) from Hol Wagner included below]

Here are the rest of the L-1 photos.  The 0-10-0s were actually quite successful at their assigned jobs and lasted a respectable 25 years in service.  It was simply a case of larger locomotives either replacing them or totally obviating the need for them in their assigned duties.
 
Hol
 

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To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 14:45:51 -0400
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Indian Warpath Train Order

 

June 14, 2015

 

Hol - Thanks for sharing the image of 590's smashed tender. The locomotive that's shoved into the tender looks to be a Class P-2 4-4-2 type. I can't recall having seen a broadside image of a Q 0-10-0 other than in the Corbin book. If you have a copy of the Seneca coal chute with an 0-10-0 image, could you please share? The Class L-1 locomotives were certainly an odd looking beast and probably not a successful design as only three were constructed. They must've carried two firemen to keep them hot. Interesting to know the 0-10-0s did venture far west of Pattsmouth. Perhaps, an article on these "orphan" helper locomotives might be a subject for a future article in one of the BRHS publications. Best Regards - Louis 

 

In a message dated 6/14/2015 10:33:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:

[Attachment(s) from Hol Wagner included below]

I checked the weekly Alliance Herald for October 26 and November 2, 1905, because as a division point the paper carried a great deal of railroad news, even a Deadwood RR news section.  And, not surprisingly, there's not a word about Indians on the warpath or anything even vaguely related.  The order, however, is still quite interesting, as it clearly shows that L-1 590 was in helper service on Orella Hill.  The original assignments of the 0-10-0s included one based at Edgemont and used as a pusher on Orella Hill, another based at Newcastle, Wyo., and used as a pusher on the coal branch up to Cambria, and the third based at Plattsmouth and used as a pusher out of the Missouri River bottoms there.  The engines rotated, so the same one was not always at the same location.  And a photo showing one of them at the Seneca, Neb., coal chute is believed to be an engine being moved to or from the shops at Plattsmouth.  ; The attached postcard view shows the 590's tender after it was rear-ended at Plattsmouth in 1907.
 
Hol
 

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