OK, I'll try to answer several questions here and make a
point. That point: My book on the equipment of the C&S-FW&D
lists ALL the passenger equipment owned by those roads, right up through the
articulated Denver Zephyr trains purchased from the Q in 1956 to re-equip the
1940 Texas Zephyr.
And, yes, all three roads -- Q, C&S and
FW&D -- had very similar if not identical 70-foot all-steel coaches, the Q's
in the 6100 series, the C&S numbered 549-554 and the FW&D 201-207.
They all measured 70'-8.5" over body end sills. As built they were true
coaches, meaning they had fixed, walk-over seats as opposed to the
reclining/revolving seats of chair cars. But by the 1950ss all of them
(except a few assigned to suburban commuter service) had been converted into
chair cars with interior layouts virtually identical to the Q's 4500 series
chair cars, which were very similar in exterior appearance to the 6100s, though
having five fewer windows in the seating area because of the spacing of the
reclining seats. Interestingly, cars 6117-6118 were built as combination
coach-chair cars, with walk-over coach seats in one have and reclining chair car
seats in the others. And the window spacing changed accordingly in the
middle of the car.
These steel heavyweight coaches were extensively
modified through the years, and a detailed history of them appeared way back in
Burlington Bulletin No. 4, which also covered the EMD F-units. The two Ray
Buhrmaster photos I posted appeared in that article.
Finally, all
three roads kept these cars(or at least some of them) in service until
1966-67, when the termination of the Railway Mail Service contracts nationwide
eliminated all but major through passenger trains. A number of the cars
still exist around the country.
Hope this answers everything that
was asked.
Hol
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014
19:45:10 -0800
Subject: Re: [CBQ] CB&Q Coaches 6100-6114
How late were these HW coaches in use on the Q and did they frequent any
particular trains/area? Wondering if they would have any application on
secondary trains (e.g. Blackhawk) on Chicago to Mpls/StP trains?
Tom
Mack
Cincinnati, OH