Leo,
Thanks for letting me know. I was last in Oregon in September of 2005. While
all the tracks were in place into the plant, they had no actual connection to
the rest of the former CB&Q system, so were totally isolated.
I was trying to figure out when I model my version of Oregon, IL, if I could or
should include the Carnation Milk Plant in my schemes for operations, but
apparently, since I'm modeling 1988-1990, and they lost rail service the year I
was born, there's no need for me to have those tracks in place on the module.
Best Regards
James
----- Original Message -----
From: "qutlx1@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 8:26:52 AM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Savanna and Oregon, IL Local Switching Duties
Your welcome Dave,always my pleasure to share. What I wrote below is just a
small portion of what was covered in my "Eola Based Way freights" presentation
at the 2013 annual meet.
Leo
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 10, 2014, at 8:21 PM, "'sartherdj@aol.com' sartherdj@aol.com [CBQ]"
> <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Leo,
>
>
> Thanks for sharing this information about Savanna, Oregon, IL, the Oregon
> Turn and Mt Morris job with the C&I groupies on the forum. Great to get this
> first hand experience/info from a "Q" veteran.
>
> Later, Dave Sarther Tucson, AZ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: qutlx1@aol.com [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
> To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, Nov 10, 2014 6:31 pm
> Subject: Fwd: [CBQ] Savanna and Oregon, IL Local Switching Duties
>
>
> James, I can't say for sure. I have seen at least one photo of BREX/FGEX
> reefers staged on the Mt Morris main,east of the depot, ready to go into
> Carnation. I seem to recall the photo was from the late 50s /early 60s. These
> were empties for evaporated can milk loading. Based on the Carnation company
> history here in my library, mty cans came from the Carnation can plant at
> Milwaukee. The only thing I can tell you for sure,from first hand experience,
> is that by 1/73 Carnation at Oregon was not rail served.
>
> Leo Phillipp
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: "jameskoretsky@comcast.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
>> Date: November 10, 2014 at 12:15:04 PM CST
>> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [CBQ] Savanna and Oregon, IL Local Switching Duties
>> Reply-To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
>>
>>
>> Leo,
>>
>> Can you tell me when the Carnation Plant stopped being serviced by rail?
>>
>> James
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "qutlx1@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
>> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 12:21:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [CBQ] Savanna and Oregon, IL Local Switching Duties
>>
>> Tom,
>>
>> The Oregon based Oregon-Mt Morris job handled all work,including the sand
>> plant at these locations. For many years it was assigned a NW. Then as sand
>> plant grew a GP7 was based at Oregon for the job.
>>
>> The Oregon Turn from Eola simply turned at Oregon. The sand was lined up by
>> the Mt Morris job for p/u by the night runs both east and west. The Oregon
>> turn didn't go to Mt Morris unless there was some urgent business there as
>> the job was not advertised to go beyond Oregon so it was an arbitrary extra
>> if they went to Mt Morris.. The main reason the job existed was to shuttle
>> the Kable cars to Aurora for a dinky run to Chicago;after the passenger
>> trains that previously handled the business were taken off. For a brief
>> period of time there was a Chadwick turn out of Eola and return. Big paying
>> high seniority job.
>>
>> Switching the sand plant was a straight shove and pull,except coupling up
>> all those air hoses and missed joints .......
>>
>> Savanna had round the clock yard jobs. Up until the mid 70s or so there two
>> on days and maybe even 4"0clocks. The yard jobs made up trains set over
>> blocks,did the Waycar swaps,spotted the rip,etc,etc,etc.
>>
>> The locals power came in on one job and usually went back out going the
>> other way. This would apply to the Wayfreights that worked between
>> Galesburg-Savanna and LaCrosse-Savanna. It was not until the late 60s that
>> the Eola-Savanna(via Mendota & Denrock)/ Savanna-Eola via Oregon came into
>> existence. There were two turns on those so the crew came in one day from
>> Mendota branch and went back the next via the C&I. Once these were,put in
>> place the Oregon turn was gone as well as the beloved pick up.
>>
>> Power for extras from Savanna were shuttled in on jobs that ,tied up there.
>> Each line to/ from Savanna had a run that handled the less urgent business
>> that was marshaled there from other lines. For example westbound cars out,of
>> Carnation, Del Monte,etc at Rochelle went to Savanna
>> On 83 or 81 or 181 (depending on the time period). Got set over and made
>> into the counterpart leaving Savanna for Galesburg the next morning. Similar
>> patterns existed going in all directions.
>>
>> Right around the BN merger a job was put on that ran from Cicero each night
>> picking up and setting out blocks of cars at Rochelle, Flag Center,Oregon
>> and returned to Cicero(or tried to) before the dinky parade. This was
>> another big paying,high seniority job that worked 7 days a week. This job
>> and the similar Streator turn were the highest paying jobs on the Division.
>> The Oregon job was officially listed as the Stratford turn so the job got
>> paid the mileage to Startford but very rarely went beyond Oregon. This
>> covered the possibility of needing someone to shove a job up the hill.
>>
>> Leo Phillipp
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On Nov 10, 2014, at 10:42 AM, "thommack@yahoo.com [CBQ]"
>> > <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Was there local power assigned at Savanna that went out from Savanna on
>> > local runs or was whatever power was laid over used for local work? Did
>> > the road power do its own flat switching, kicking cars in the yard? Also I
>> > don’t seem to have info on what local freights might have run out of
>> > Savanna and to where.
>> >
>> > I believe Oregon (which I also model) was covered by a local out of
>> > Eola(?) that dropped off cars and I know that there was at least a
>> > switcher or geep (depending on the era) assigned to Oregon that ran the
>> > Mt. Morris branch local. But I don’t recall if Carnation and downtown
>> > Oregon were switched by the same locomotive that handled the Mt. Morris
>> > job or if the local from Eola switched them? Also, does anyone recall how
>> > the sand plant at Oregon was switched? I know in the Q days it tied up the
>> > main (before the longer siding paralleling the main was installed). Again,
>> > was that the same Eola job that came in switched both the area right in
>> > Oregon and then the sand plant. Or was that handled by a local locomotive
>> > and crew based in Oregon?
>> >
>> > Tom Mack - Preparing for winter on the C&I...
>> > Cincinnati, OH
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>
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