Hol, Thanks for all the info. You have been a great help. My Grandfather worked out of Ferry starting in 1941 until the merger and then at the Sioux city yards until his retirement in 1980. Before he passed I asked him to draw me some maps of the yards for my files. In his map he shows the “in bound track” as the one with all of the coaling and watering facilities. His map shows a cinder pit track but no coal chute delivery track. Although it can be seen in the photo I have attached. This photo shows an inspection car on the turntable which lines up with the first roundhouse stall and directly with the “in bound track” Just directly to the right of the inspection car is an old boxcar storage building and another boxcar directly behind it on what seems to be the coal delivery track? Would that be correct? The track in the background directly to the right of the inspection car is what he called the “outbound track” Is this what the yard map that you have seen shows? The locations of the coal chute and the water tower still have their foundations intact at Ferry, I have located them recently. The inbound track is no longer in place but you can see where it was. In fact up until the new Sioux City bridge was build they use to store motors on that track. Not sure when it was taken up though. Just a couple final questions, how did the cinder pits work? And is there a diagram of the Roundhouse/Boilerhouse? And the yard office? I am searching the Sioux City Museum and the Dakota County Historical Society for photos but if you know of any more please let me know. Your help is greatly appreciated, Scott From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 8:47 AM
To: CB&Q Group
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Facilities Scott:
Glad you found the diagram helpful, but it's about the only ting I've got on Ferry. As for where such things are found, remember that I've been gathering Burlington data since about 1960 and acquired a great deal of what I have directly from the railroad, or from friends who got it from the railroad. The latter is the case with the coaling station diagrams, which came from a BRHS member (who shall remain nameless here to protect him from requests for copies of this drawing or that) who worked for BN and copied the drawings before they were tossed. Tim Fleck is selling a CD of depot diagrams from a book similarly rescued from the Lincoln engineering department files. The Colorado Railroad Museum library has hundreds of Burlington drawings of various sorts. There's lots of material out there; it just takes some digging to turn it up. And inquiring as you did on this list is generally a good starting place.
As for other diagrams, depots and coaling stations are the only structures I'm aware of for which the Q drew diagram sheets. Water tanks were, for the most part, of just a few standard designs, so large, detailed drawings used for their erection are all I have ever seen. And sand towers, by the 1940s, were being manufactured by outside firms such as Roberts & Schaefer, and the manufacturer's drawings were used by the railroad. I have looked for years without success for a drawing of the fairly standard wooden sand tower used by the Q in the steam era where sand was not dispensed at/by the coal chute. Separate sand towers were used when space or other constraints did not allow the sand drying and storage house to be located adjacent to the coal chute and the dried sand pumped through pipes to the coal chute for distribution.
As for Ferry itself, I may have a general diagram of the yard and engine facilities there, not drawn to scale, but if I do it will date to the late 1960s. If I locate one and it's of a scanable size, I'll scan it, clean it up a bit and post it.
And as to your final question, yes, there would be at least two tracks at every coal chute -- one to deliver coal to the chute and one ore more for coaling locomotives. The Ferry diagram's plan view shows the two tracks employed there.
Good luck with your project!
Hol
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From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2014 08:12:24 -0600
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Facilities
Hol, Thank you very much! This is just what I’m looking for. Where do you find this kind of info? Is there a diagram for the water tower and sand tower as well? Do you know if there is a Yard map with all trackage? In reference to the coal tower, There would be a track under the coal chute and a track on the backside for dropping coal? Thanks much, Scott From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 9:45 PM
To: CB&Q Group
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Facilities [1 Attachment] Scott:
Sorry, I was out of town when your request appeared and it took me awhile to scan and clean up the diagram of the Ferry coal chute upon my return, but here it is. Hope it helps.
Hol
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From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 18:25:39 -0800
Subject: [CBQ] Facilities
Does anyone know where I can find data (photos, drawings, details) on the coaling tower, water tank and sand tower for the Yards at Ferry Nebraska? I have tried to locate photos without success so I'm looking to the group for help. I have 1 photo that I posted here of an inspection car on the turntable which shows the coaling tower but it is very distant.
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