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Re: [CBQ] Re: Oil on the Q in World War Two

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Oil on the Q in World War Two
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Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 18:22:26 -0400 (EDT)
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Well believe it or not I was wrong about what I remembered....I went down and found the album..It was put out by Kalmbach and there is one Wind River Canyon photo, but it's a steam powered freight train..

Once again..sometimes my memory is so good that it remembers places that never were and things that never happened.



Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: Jpslhedgpeth <Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Oct 31, 2013 5:14 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Oil on the Q in World War Two

 
Bill et al

I think that the photo you are referrencing is in that oversize photo album..maybe put out by Kalmbach...the stuff was vintage 1940-s early 50's...I have it someplace and will try to find it when I return from the BRHS annual meet.

Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: William Barber <clipperw@gmail.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:58 pm
Subject: [CBQ] Re: Oil on the Q in World War Two

 
John,

I recalling seeing a photo in a very old "Trains Magazine" of a solid tank car train on the Q. As I remember, it was pulled by FTs and the photo was taken somewhere on the Wind River line. As far as tank car ownership, back in WWII as it is now, most of the tank cars were private owner, primarily GATX and UTLX. I don't know how the WPB restrictions applied to them, but I assume that every available tank car was pressed into shipment of oil and oil products for the war effort. 

Bill Barber
Gravois Mills, MO

On Oct 31, 2013, at 4:31 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:21 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

"Phillips, III, J.A." whstlpnk

All-

Another NPR report today on oil companies moving oil by rail as they can't get the Keystone XL pipe line built had me thinking about the NP's dedicated oil trains to support the war in the Pacific during WWII. Does anyone know the details (or has an article been written) on dedicated oil trains on the Q during WWII? Presume FWD-KC-Laurel, but anything is possibl e.

As an addendum to the above, the NP's tank car fleet was just about nil in 1940 (just a handful for company service). Does anyone know how many tank cars the Q rostered in 1940 and then in 1945? With the War Production Board clamping down on who got what for the duration, I would like to know if they allocated any materials for tank car construction (as tankers were quickly taken up in war service and withdrawn from coastal/Gulf public trade).

RSVP
John Phillips
Seattle



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