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While working the Ottumwa Desk in Galesburg you also ran the Kansas City to St. Joe which the CTC was in the Operators office at St. Joe and he worked under your direction. When ever it rained you had to get the track inspector out due to flooding. So one day it rained so we called the track inspector out and he said it had not rained down on track level so did not have to go out. It had rained up on top of the bluff and ran down to track level and washed out a bridge two units and around 75 cars went into the creek. When the engineer woke up he was in the middle of water swirling around him and freaked out over the radio which the Op at St. Joe did not have I had it in Cicero. We got the hogger out ok and when the line was put back in they added a high water detector to the creek bridge.
So Pete I would say the bluff, road and trackage may have changed over the years. After about 5 years on the Ottumwa Desk the old head from Hannibal retired off the Main Line Desk job I had owned in Cicero so I got it back. So the chief let the Lincoln Chief have both the Kansas City to St. Joe and also west of Creston to P Jct and our office got no trackage in return. Then we got moved to Ft Worth Steve in SC retired and loving it Only miss the people I use to work with From: Bill Hirt <whirt@sbcglobal.net> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [CBQ] St Joe Zephyr?
There are several confusing things about the picture. The presence
of a searchlight signal might indicate a CTC-installation. St Joseph
Division Employee Timetable effective June 15 1947 shows CTC was in
effect between Block 36 (just north of Weston and at 36.24) and
cross-over Armour (MP 43.45) . However double track was only shown
for this CTC portion between MP 41.89 (south of Armour) and
cross-over Armour. The signal is a single aspect, so it would not be
with the cross-over. The 1960s track charts do not show the leg of
the Atchison wye being like what is shown in the picture. Train #21
was scheduled to pass block 36 at 4:39 pm and stop at Armour at 4:48
pm. There was still connecting train service at the time between
Armour and Atchison. The position of the bluffs looks in the right
position for Armour. Armour is also in extreme south Buchanan county
which is the county St Joe is in. The stacks could be that of the
Leavenworth power and water utility 15-20 miles away on a summer
day. Now looking longer at the picture, it also could be curve between Waldron and Farley. This view would be looking south towards where current day Missouri 45 comes down out of the bluffs in the bottoms. As Pete noted there is more vegetation there today, the highway is now further away from the bluffs and closer to the tracks, and the embankment for the tracks has been raised several times due to Missouri River floods. The stacks could be a Kansas City Kansas power plant, but I don't think they were that far west or existed in the era of the picture. Another part that does not fit is the track coming into the southbound main track on the right side of the picture. So considering the alternates my best current guess would be just south of Armour. Bill Hirt On 8/30/2013 9:23 AM,
Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com wrote:
You could be right Tom...BUT I keep thinking about too much room between the tracks and the bluff???? __._,_.___
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