Scott
Taken from previous discussions on
this question -
"The Q did own 5 U30Bs built as
U30Bs and 10 U30Bs that were rebuilt from U28Bs."
Tom Mack gave an
extensive answer to a GE question which included -
"To add a little
additional diesel trivia here, Q was a somewhat unique GE owner in several
respects. First, they had the largest fleet of U25C carbody U28C's of any road.
These 16 Phase I U28C's looked identical to the Q's 12 U25C's except for the
loco identification plate. There is an excellent article on the U25C with great
Q pictures in a back issue of Diesel Era magazine, including info on the Q Phase
I U28C's. (I can get the actual issue number if anyone is interested).
In
regard to the B-B U-boats, Q of course had its 6 U25B's 100-105 purchased in
1964, but where it really gets interesting is with the 10 U28B's (106-115)
starting in 1966. These were delivered in the Phase II U28B carbodies, not the
Phase I's that were identical to the U25B's. So there is a clear delineation
between the U25B's and U28B's. Where it starts to get confusing is when the 10
U30B's 140-149 came in also in 1966. These Actually started life as U28B's but
were immediately upgraded to 3000 HP U30B's. Since GE used the Phase II U28B
carbodies on their Phase I U30B's these 10 U30B units are identical to the 10
U28B's. Again, the identification plate is about the only thing that
differentiates them on the Q. Some Q rosters, such as the one in Extra 2200
South magazine May/June 1971 list them as U28Bm's, to show they were modified
from the U28B's.
When Q got its second batch of U30B's in early 1968
(units 150-154) GE had already moved the U30B to the classic full height
radiator Phase II U30 carbody shared by the C&S U30C's and later, the
U23C's. So these last 5 U30B's are very easily distinguished from any other B-B
U-boats on the Q. Two side notes - the CB&Q U30B made by Athearn actually
carries the correct number for the body style - it is a Phase II U30B and
carries the number 153. Second, the U30B's were in Chinese Red, so the carbody
similarities between the U30B's and U23C's could confuse some people who didn't
notice that the one was a B-B U-boat, the other a C-C U-boat. Some could
mistakenly think there were Chinese Red U23C's on the roster."
There was
also a comment at the time -
"The U28bs weren't upgraded until the summer of
68 according to Al Holck's book and photographic evidence shows that they kept
the original U28 model plates."
Rupert Gamlen
Auckland
NZ
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 4:27
PM
Subject: [CBQ] U30B
The
locomotive roster shown on the BRHS website lists Locomotives 140-149 as
U28Bs, along with numbers 106-115. This is also the information shown on
page 181 of the book The Burlington in Transition, which includes a
photo of #149 with a builder's plate reading U28B on page 178. However,
I have photographs of 141 and 148 that clearly show builder's plates that read
U30B. Can anyone explain the apparent discrepancy? Were they
originally ordered as U28Bs, then upgraded to U30B after entering service
perhaps?
Scott Myers
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