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Re: [CBQ] Pullman equipment

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Pullman equipment
From: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 21:23:05 -0500
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Depends on the year.   And, i suppose, I should be more explicit, in terms of the name, but for my use, "Pullman" refers to the operating entity, which was part of Pullman & Co. before 1948-49 and after was owned by railroads. 

Prior to 1948-49 (and after the mid-teens), Pullman and railroads entered into contracts whereby Pullman would assign cars for a given capacity with certain amenities.  if an assigned car was unavailable (as in, it was in for maintenance), a similar car would be obtained from the Pool.  This is why the 6-6 was in the Expo that got hit in Naperville, it usually would have been an 8-5, it was unavailable, they used a 6-6 to replace it.   Pullman maintained shops (in this time period) in Atlanta, Richmond (CA), Wilmington (DE) and Buffalo (and, of course, Chicago).  Maintenance facilities were often paired with a host railroad, or, in the case of a major terminal like St. Louis, Pullman had their own facilities.  They also had facilities for supplies and food service (this is the final location of many car bodies).  Before every run, a Pullman would be inspected by Pullman employees, the Pullman conductor would sign off, and Pullman employees (typically porters, but other functionaries as well) would take care of the passengers (and car) en route (and would provide information to the Conductor (or Porter-in-charge) and he in turn would forward information to the Company, who would then notify maintenance and would enable replacements if such need be. 

 Pullman contracted for some maintenance, but by and large, Pullman was responsible for maintaining their cars (and, often, host's cars as well).  It is worth noting that Pullman was responsible for the maintaining of the CZ sleepers & lounges.  There is a Pullman Manual indicating exactly how to maintain those cars, with a wealth of information as to the specific parts therein.  Now, trucks were their responsibility, but, again, often contracted to host railroads (i.e. Zephyr pit). 


This is why the cars for the Anniversary fleet, while assigned to CB&Q were later used elsewhere throughout the Pool (in other words, anywhere in North America).  Specific cars were assigned only, although there are specific cars mentioned in contracts, Pullman could assign any similar car to a given use.

At 08:25 PM 10/23/2012, Rupert & Maureen wrote:


Bob

Presumably there was a contract between Pullman and the railroad to provide certain types of equipment for a specified period, with conditions relating to maintenance, etc. Would the equipment be collected from Pullman or did Pullman arrange delivery to the road? Would Pullman inspect the equipment periodically to ensure it was being maintained correctly?

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ
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From: Bob Webber
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Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Expo Flyer sleeper question?

No apologies necessary, certainly not to me.     This is a term that crept in and is hard to weed out (in this context).  

And, just like "roof walks" "Harriman roof" and a few other phrases and terms, it gets harder and harder to ensure the correct use is utilized. 



Bob Webber

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