If you look real close under magnification, you
will see that the B unit rads are curved with the roof line. The A units
have the raised flat rads and are phase I. The Bs had rads similar to the E7s.
Now in Holcks vol I, page 71, you can clearly see the phase II rads on both A
units. In vol II, page 34 both photos show phase I As, and clearly show the A
and B differences. The bottom is a I and II set. If you look at the pilots
and buffers of those two lead units and compare them to the top photo
on page 35, you will see the other difference between a I and II A
unit.
Gordon Smith
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Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 10:16
PM
Subject: [CBQ] Re: Kato E-5
Dan,
In the view of the E5s on page 12 on Spoor's Vol. 2, the first E5A and
the E5B appear to have the same shutter arrangement. The trailing E5A clearly
has a different arrangement. If you look on the next page, there is another
view with two E5As with an E7A between them. The lead E5A has the same
shutters as the first two units on the previous page, but the E7 and the
trailing E5A have a different arrangement that looks like the trailing E5A on
the previous page. I don't know which was the first generation and which was
the second generation. I believe the silver colored more or less flush mounted
arrangement is the earlier or original version. The dark colored arrangement
that appears to be raised up above the roof line is the later
version.
Both photos were taken in later years, so the shutter assemblies may have
gotten switched around in the shoppings over the years. I suspect that the RR
would not have put an early version of the E5 shutters on an E7, so that makes
me think that it is a later version of the shutter arrangement that may
have also been applied to the later Phase II E5s. With the E8s, the shutters
were moved to the side of the carbody behind the grills on the cold air side
of the air flow. BTW, the Pennsy E7 in the top photo on page 13 looks like it
has no shutters.
Bill Barber
Gravois Mills, MO
Sat
Sep 8, 2012 10:30 am (PDT) . Posted by:
Hi,
I
thought that brass is more accurate but the Hallmark N-scale brass E5B
has
the same radiators as the A unit.
So far the best photo I
could find of a E5B top is on page 68 of the FWD
color pictorial book by
Steve Allen Goen.
Other ones are a partial view on page 79 and page
106 and indeed it looks
different.
However, in Harrison street
view (page 12) of Michael Spoor's book CB&Q in
Color Volume 2 it
looks like the covers are the same.
All the best,
Dan
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