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[CBQ] Re: F3 Steam Generator Removal

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Subject: [CBQ] Re: F3 Steam Generator Removal
From: herrick@krausonline.com
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 12:46:40 -0000
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Pulled out BB35 and that photo says it all, doesn't it. Thanks, John!

Bob

--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "John D. Mitchell, Jr." <cbqrr47@...> wrote:
>
> I have a photograph of 9960 in the south yards at Christopher, Illinois on 
> November 1, 1957, marked taken at 1:00 PM, on train #15, in passenger livery. 
> You can see the boiler vent. It is on page 87 of BB 35. I'm sure of date 
> because I have 15's train orders (run two hours late)  and clearance card 
> for that date together with a message telling the crew to make a pick up of 
> coal cars at Herrin Junction. The conductor Avon A. Bryant saved them because 
> of the unusual power and gave to me shortly he died. The picture is marked 
> John Gruber colection but I suspect that John Allen took it.
>  
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: "herrick@..." <herrick@...>
> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 8:22 PM
> Subject: [CBQ] Re: F3 Steam Generator Removal
>   
> 
>    
>  
> 
> 
> Thanks, Hol. I would have to concur with your assessment, barring photo 
> evidence to the contrary. 
> 
> I was thumbing through Mike Spoor's four volume set and discovered that he 
> states in the middle caption on p.24 of his second volume that the boilers 
> were removed, and the units were repainted, in 1955, but there are several 
> published photos that show them in passenger livery after reassignment. 
> Again, the cover photo on Al's book is dated 1957 and it sure appears that 
> the rooftop boiler venting is still in place.
> 
> As always, Hol, you are an encyclopedia of knowledge of all things Q. Thanks 
> again for the response.
> 
> Bob
> 
> --- In mailto:CBQ%40yahoogroups.com, HOL WAGNER <holpennywagner@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Bob:
> > 
> > These units were regeared for freight service in 1955, and it has always 
> > baffled me why their boilers weren't removed and the units repainted into 
> > freight colors at that time -- but clearly they weren't.  One would have to 
> > presume that the boilers were removed when the units were repainted into 
> > freight colors in 1958, as no photos I've seen of them in white indicate 
> > the presence of the boiler equipment, though as you say, it's impossible to 
> > tell in some photos.
> > 
> > Hol
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > To: mailto:CBQ%40yahoogroups.com
> > From: herrick@
> > Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 01:18:12 +0000
> > Subject: [CBQ] F3 Steam Generator Removal
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Anyone know when the steam generators were removed from the F3 sets 
> > originally built for CZ service? One of the cover photos for Al Holck's 
> > first volume on the Q's motive power shows one of the sets in 1957 still in 
> > aluminum paint and what appears to be the roof appurtences still in place. 
> > In later photos from 1958 on in Al's books as well as Spoor's volumes, when 
> > the units had been repainted in freight colors, the roof vents or whatever 
> > they were are not evident although it's hard to tell from the angle of the 
> > shots.
> > 
> > Bob Herrick
> >
>




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