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Pete and Joe
I had the same thing happen to me. I was working the East End(Chicago to Aurora) and a CR crew called said he was at the bottom of the Hill at Western Ave and wanted to come up for Cicero with a transfer. I had track lights on the CTC over the route he was to take so I told him I could not take him and called the maintainer to check it out. He reported in there was a train sitting on the track! Seems the CR crew got to the bottom of the hill at Western Ave and the pot was burned out so they just kept coming till they got stopped at a red signal. (this at the top of the hill coming out on Main 4) So everybody gets an invite to meet in the conference room down the hall a couple days later. The CR crew excuse for running the pot at the bottom of the hill was. There were so many signals out of service and switches spiked where they were use to running they just figured the signal at the bottom was burned out and kept moving till they got to a red signal before they called the dispatcher. Made me feel about 2 inches tall but you had to PTA. Never did hear what happened to the CR train crew. Steve in SC From: "Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com" <Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, August 1, 2012 10:30:05 PM Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Chicago transfers
Joe
Thing like this make so much sense....Back in the day there was no such thing...You just went out there, sometimes not really knowing what railroad you were on...Everybody from the Superintendent on down expected you to know where everything was...It was a nightmare for a new Trainmaster from "out in the sticks"...
Our old Supt. was a former Chicago terminal swichman and probably knew as much about the entire Chicago switching territory...as you properly described as that territory enclosed by the EJE as anyone alive at that time. GHV died several years ago and probably most, if not all of his contemporaries are also gone. There are a few former RI switchmen and yardmasters still around, but they are few and far between. When you hear them talk it's like being in a time warp from 50 years ago. They talk of railroads as they were then and interchange points which certainly no longer exist.
I remember about the first day I landed in Chicago in August 1961 the Supt told me to go down to 12th St and expedite a delilvery of a perishable load..I think it was an REX reefer of Strawberries which was going to, I think the Eirie...I remember one of the switfchmen telling me I had to go "call the yardmaster at Robie St"...He might as well have told me to call the "man in the moon".
Pete
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From: Joe <mp36er@sbcglobal.net> To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wed, Aug 1, 2012 2:14 pm Subject: [CBQ] Re: Chicago transfers Today the Chicago Operating Rules Association (CORA) has a big blue binder that every employee working on a foreign road in CORA territory (defined as all trackage within the loop of the EJ&E) must have a copy while on duty. The binder contains the most pertinent operating rules of every railroad in Chicagoland, and track diagrams of all mainlines for the assistance of foreign line crews.
Engineers must be qualified on any route they operate over, or else request a pilot, but we are not required to take rules tests on other railroads' rulebooks. Since every employee is required to carry the CORA while on a foreign road, the rules are always at hand if need be. However, anyone operating on Amtrak trackage in and around Union Station must take a test on Amtrak's Book of Rules once a year - that has not changed. I'm not sure when the CORA Guide was first issued. Joe LeMay --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, qutlx1@... wrote: > > Every operating employee working in/out of Chicago Union Station was > required to pass its' book of rules and remain qualified to work on their > property in addition to his home roads rules. > > Did all the many crews working in transfer service have to be qualified > and re-examined on the various roads they could be called to run across ? > Imagine an extra board engineman or switchman who from day to day might work > on any number of freight transfers or at 14th st and run over to another > road/station to get mail or express cars. Did they also then need to be > qualified on the other stations book of rules ? Seems one would be in rules > classes a lot of the time. > > Anybody have any insight into how this worked ? > > This came to mind after looking at a photo of Bill Shoeners dad in the cab > of # 540 the other night. I know strange minds.................... > > Leo Phillipp > __._,_.___
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