Re: [CBQ] Re: Wheel

["John D. Mitchell, Jr." <cbqrr47@yahoo.com>]

Steve

You are exactly right. While I am just a few years too young to remember belt driven threshing machines, I do go to the American Threshermen's show at Pinkneyville,Illinois every year for the last 43 years and I saw plenty of belt driven machines on our farm and neighboring farms like silage blowers, corn shellers, hammer mills, saw mills, punch and tie balers and many more. They never used a center rimmed belt pulley because it would break the cords in the flat belt and ruin them. We never had tractors on steel but our neighbors did and the front wheels looked exactly like the wheel in question.

John

 

From: STEVEN HOLDING <sholding@sbcglobal.net>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Wheel

 

Hey Guys WHY flog a dead horse
It is a front wheel off an old tractor that was built on steel.  The ridge helped to keep it in the ground as a tread.
Now look at early rubber tires on the front of tractors.  They had the ridge just like the older steel wheels
Steve in SC

From: William Hoy <dieselpop1@msn.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, July 30, 2012 1:46:27 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Wheel

 

Threshers driven by belts were still used when I was young. I never saw a ridged wheel or any kind of tensioner used. The tractor was simply backed up until the tension was right. I have seen the belt fly off.

W. D. Hoy

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: edcarroll308

To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 9:01 AM

Subject: [CBQ] Re: Wheel

 

This could indeed be a wheel from a wheat thresher because of the 29" size and the center rib. I have tried to find a good shot of a steam tractor with a wheat thresher. This site has a few years of photos and would be used to see some examples of this design of wheel.
http://www.threshermen.org/2007showphotosFrame1Source1.htm

This has a steam tractor and a thresher, the wheels on the thresher would seem to be about 29 or 30 inches. While a close examination shows these wheels to be flat surfaced, I have seen the ridged wheels at Pontiac IL at the "Old Thresher-man's Reunion" but I do not have a photo of those wheels.
http://www.wasco-history.r9esd.k12.or.us/comm/dufur/bee/thresh.html

As far as being a tensioner for a belt I have not seen ridged idler or tensioner as it would cause wear to the belt. As you can--sort of---see on the thresher the metal framework allows for pieces of metal to extend over or under the belt with very small flat surfaced wheel(s)with a slight angle to help keep the belt from slipping off. These small wheel usually look like sections from a cone. As almost every one who has watched the steam tractors run the long belts the engineer usually has a long wooden pole or paddle to slide the belt back onto the center of the drive wheel (or more modernly -the power take-off).

As far as being a piece of railroad equipment I was wondering if any human powered equipment would have used something like this for a fly wheel? That is all I have.

--- In mailto:CBQ%40yahoogroups.com, "dieselpop1" <dieselpop1@...> wrote:
>
> Definite possibility there. The rib would keep the tracks aligned.
> W. D. Hoy
>
> --- In mailto:CBQ%40yahoogroups.com, Jan Kohl <j.kohl@> wrote:
> >
> > Unlikely. Most front tractor tires were not one-piece cast:
> > http://transport.castlegraphics.com/displayimage.php?album=2&pos=7
> > http://transport.castlegraphics.com/displayimage.php?album=2&pos=9
> > http://transport.castlegraphics.com/displayimage.php?album=2&pos=10
> > http://transport.castlegraphics.com/displayimage.php?album=2&pos=14
> >
> > The only one-piece cast front tractor tire I have ever seen is this one: it is
> > not identical or even close. However, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.
> > http://transport.castlegraphics.com/displayimage.php?album=2&pos=18
> >
> > What I suspect is that it is an idler or roller for a tracked vehicle, such as a
> > vintage dozer.
> > http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3653/3371336842_0d6d43d088_o.jpg
> > http://www.publiquip.com/photo/1533107891.jpg
> > http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6169/6170407786_9bd5c2704c_o.jpg
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Jan Kohl
> > castlegraphics.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 7/13/2012 8:29 AM, Douglas Harding wrote:
> > > Looks like the front wheel of a steam tractor. Most had a center rib on the
> > > tread.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Doug Harding
> > >
> > > http://www.iowacentralrr.org/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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