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RE: [CBQ] NYC and PRR 10-6 Sleepers on the CZ

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Subject: RE: [CBQ] NYC and PRR 10-6 Sleepers on the CZ
From: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 09 May 2012 12:56:18 -0500
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While some NYC 10-6s showed up on the CZ in the post 1957 era, by far more common were the 4-4-2s.  10-6s were the most popular LW car design, and, like the PRR, they tried to keep them "home".  If you look at the foreign car DB and the various consists, you'll find that the 4-4-2s and 10-5s from Eastern roads made the bulk of the special and tour cars for those two RRs.  

There isn't a plastic R-T-R NYC VAlLEY car, though with the TCL coming out, the other variant is provided.  But, here again, the concept of favorites / priorities comes up.   The NYC preferred the painted cars on the main line trains (save for the SWL), and the VALLEY cars showed up as foreign cars much more often than the others.   The NYC started dumping sleepers in the early mid-60s, to the IC and to Canada (and later to Mexico).   So you have to adjust accordingly. 


At 10:52 AM 5/9/2012, you wrote:


All, thanks for the inputs.  I recently had the opportunity to pick up several BLI CZ cars enabling me to run a full CZ consist, I wanted to pick up some of the Walthers NYC 10-6s to run with it as well.  My era is more mid to late 60's but I'm will to stretch a bit to get some other stuff on the RR.

As always, a wealth of information just a click away (this is after going thru the books I already had on the subject) and I thank you.

Ricky K.


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From: rgz17@comcast.net
Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 08:02:21 -0500
Subject: Re: [CBQ] NYC and PRR 10-6 Sleepers on the CZ



Yes, Oct. 1957.  But, being pedantic - there was no arrangement to have NYC & PRR 10-6s run on the CZ on alternating days.  

The PRR's car, SILVER RAPIDS and a car leased from one of the other roads in the consortium were used as the contributions to the pool by the PRR  & NYC respectively.  The other days, it was a typical consortium owned and operated (though Pullman staffed) car.   The NYC often used a VALLEY series car, which you can see on many CZs (trucks and roofs are the main tip-offs). 

The PRR was a full member of the consortium, the NYC was not.   The NYC connection could be a bit hairy given the change of terminals.   

And, just because the through car agreements ended in 1957, that did not mean the end of NYC & PRR cars on the CZ - quite the contrary, they showed up far more often. 

At 07:21 AM 5/9/2012, you wrote:


Ricky,
 
I believe the "transcontinental agreements" lasted until 1957, but I don't have my documentation here.
 
Rich G.


-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Keil <rkeil6721@hotmail.com>
To: cbq <cbq@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, May 9, 2012 6:50 am
Subject: [CBQ] NYC and PRR 10-6 Sleepers on the CZ

 
How long did the arrangement last to have the NYC and PRR 10-6s run on the CZ on alternating days?

Thanks

Ricky Keil
Bellevue, NE

Bob Webber




Bob Webber

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