Re: [CBQ] CBQ/NP NCL reroutes to the MILW, ca. 1968-9?

[Ted Schnepf <railsunl@sbcglobal.net>]

Hello,

First I believe John is referring to Portage, Wis. not Ill.  If a
NP, GN or CBQ train is in Portage Wisconsin that means the Q is also
flooded somewhere south of LaCrosse, as well as to the north of
Lax.

Help me out, but if division street is flooded, the detour could not use
the Milw out of the Twin Cites, as they also ran through Division
Street.
When Division Street flooded, the only routes east were the CNW/Omaha
(returning to the Milw at Camp Douglas, Wis.) and the Soo Line (Junction
City/ New Lisbon, Wis)?

During the 1965 flooding, the railroads when detouring, had to leave
behind tail end and other none necessary cars, due to train length
limitations on the detouring RR's, so detouring consists in 1965 would be
none standard.  Also many trains were combined, eliminating the need
for 2 diners and other cars in combined trains.  At the peak of the
1965 flooding when only the Soo was open to the east, the detouring
railroads only got to run one passenger train per day each way.  All
Milw, CNW and CBQ railroads were each allowed one train.  So all the
Hill roads would be on one long train.

The 1965 flood detours made for some very interesting moves.  I
would like to learn of other observations during the 1965 flood.

Ted

At 10:20 PM 5/4/2012, you wrote:


> I believe it happened
> twice.   1965 & 1969 at Winona Jct. (crossing with
> GB&W).   There are photos in the files section of this
> group.  Also Division Street in St. Paul was under
> water.   
>
> From: whstlpnk <whstlpnk@ix.netcom.com>
> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 10:06 PM
> Subject: [CBQ] CBQ/NP NCL reroutes to the MILW, ca. 1968-9?
>
>   
> All-
>
> Does anyone have any details on the date or causes of the _NCL_ being
> re-routed off the Q and onto the MILW between the Twin Cities and
> Chicago? I believe there was some flooding on the Q's route along the
> Mississippi, which must have been in the 1968-9 period? I think I have
> two shots of the _NCL_ on the Milwaukee, one at Portage and the other in
> Milwaukee proper. The Portage shot shows what looks (to me) to be a
> Pullman sleeper bringing up the markers, so the observation car has been
> removed, which I think means a date after the spring of 1968? What would
> be nice to know is date of the wash-out, locale, and how long the Q was
> knocked out of service. (Was this this old CB&N route into the Twin
> Cities?)
>
> RSVP
> John Phillips
> Seattle

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