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John,
Guilty as charged! (city slicker) Please note he used the proper termanology - I just "citified" it!
Rich G.
-----Original Message----- From: John D. Mitchell, Jr. <cbqrr47@yahoo.com> To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tue, Nov 29, 2011 8:57 am Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Stock Cars on the C&I Rich
As a country boy to a city boy, HOGS not pigs get slaughtered. Pigs become shoats which become hogs. City people call all swine, pigs.
John
From: "rgortowski@aol.com" <rgortowski@aol.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 7:35 AM Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Stock Cars on the C&I Doug,
Thanks for the insight. This is great information and gives me something to think about. I had forgotten about the seasonality of the meat trade. Would there be much shipping/slaughter going on in the month of December? I'm sure that you have some going on all of the time, but there is probably a natural cycle with peaks and valleys.
BTW, This weekend I was talking with my daughter's boyfriend, who is working on his PhD in animal production (hogs). I was stunned by how quick the cycle is. He was telling me the targeted slaughter weight for pigs is 275 lbs and this is achieved in just 24 weeks after birth. He has some fascinating stories!
Rich G.
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From: Douglas Harding <doug.harding@iowacentralrr.org> To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Mon, Nov 28, 2011 6:37 pm Subject: [CBQ] Re: Stock Cars on the C&I Rich, if the price was better in Chicago than in St Paul, then yes you would see cattle on the move via rail in 1950. While much livestock traffic had moved to truck, rail was still a factor in your time period. Esp if the cattle was coming a long distance, ie western grasslands.
As cattle and sheep were raised on the grasslands of the GN & NP territory, you would see GN & NP stockcars going into Chicago. And yes you might see these cars east of Chicago. But be aware that west of Chicago major feed and rest stations existed, where livestock was unloaded. Sometimes the same car would be used for reloading, sometimes a different car was used as the original had already been used or sent for cleaning or returned as an empty. Online railroads would use their own cars when possible, or used a car being return to its owner railroad. Much would depend upon the shipper and routing selected. But it was possible to see cars almost anywhere.
Rochelle Swift plant: from earlier correspondence about this plant, it appears it was built circa 1948. And went through several owners. Notes indicate it was primarily hogs, but handled some beef. Most hogs would have been local, ie a 100 mile radius of the plant, hence the heavy use of trucks to move hogs by 1950. Cattle may have come further distances. Swift was a large company with numerous slaughter operations. They had livestock buyers across the country making purchases to keep their slaughter operations running. Some you might have hogs or cattle coming from some distance away, if the price was right.
Doug Harding
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