Duncan, By the time I was working on a switch engine at Keokuk, the
only road left besides the BN was the KJRy or Klunk and Junk as we so
fondly called it. We each switched Hubingers and the BN did the
switching on up the Mooar line. Some of the cars we pulled at Midwest
Carbide and Griffen Wheel we delivered to the KJ for the long haul.
General Mills also had to be interchanged from time to time but not as
much as MWC or Griffen. A few of the KJ men were former RI employees
but they are all gone now. I remember switching Stone Container or
Horner Box and Sheller Globe who made car parts(dashboards, etc.) We
also switched Electro Metal and many other industries that were gone
by the time I started switching. Archie
On Oct 3, 2011, at 4:01 PM, Duncan Cameron wrote:
> Michael,
> That helps a lot. The info about the absence of a reciprocal
> switching agreement is also helpful. I hadn't discovered any
> information about the kind of arrangement that might have existed in
> Keokuk. I do have some evidence of cars from General Mills, which
> would also have been on the Moora spur, going out on the Rock
> Island, but the vast majority seem to have gone on the Q. Based on
> what you've said that would suggest some kind of reciprocal
> agreement between Q and Rock, which is possible. I believe both
> switched Hubinger's, which was the only industry directly accessible
> from Rock Island tracks. Wabash and TP&W would have been transfer
> only.
> Thank you for your help.
> Duncan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Johns
> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 3:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [CBQ] operational question
>
> Mr. Cameron:
>
> The question of which railroad does the switching and which carrier
> is selected to be the "line haul" carrier is a function of what kind
> of switching district the shipper is located within. I would suspect
> that the spur you noted at Keokuk is one "closed" to reciprocal
> switching by other carriers- hence they do not have access. Then the
> shipper would find it economically expedient to ship on the CBQ as
> far as possible under the bill of lading.
>
> If the spur is open to reciprocal switching, the CBQ local would
> switch the plant but bring the car to the local carrier selected by
> the shipper to originate the line haul. In Keokuk, the Rock Island
> (before 1980) and Wabash (before 1960) were local carriers but I do
> not believe they were party to a reciprocal switching agreement at
> Keokuk with the CBQ.
>
> In present day Ottumwa, Iowa, Rosenmann's Scrap Yard is shipping
> scrap metal in gondolas to a steel mill using an 1887 Milwaukee Road
> reciprocal switching agreement. Rosenman's is physically located on
> the BNSF (CBQ), but the load is tendered under the switch agreement
> to the CP (as successor to the Milwaukee) for transport. Lately,
> however, the BNSF has been transporting the loads to the CP at
> destination because it is just too much hassle to tie up two 6 axle
> locomotives on the double main to switch the single car one time per
> day back to the CP (Milw) interchange!
>
> I hope this is an explanation, and is not too confusing.
>
> Michael Johns
> Burlington Junction Railway
>
> ________________________________
> From: Duncan Cameron <d.cameron@sympatico.ca>
> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 1:17 PM
> Subject: [CBQ] operational question
>
> I wonder if someone who actually worked with a railroad could answer
> an operational question.
> It just occurred to me that several of Keokuk's industries were on
> the Q's Moora spur.
> This suggested that the Q would do the switching of those plants.
> If the Q was being paid for the switching, would it be likely that
> the plant would also use the Q to haul the car out of town?
> That is, would there be a savings to the shipper if they did so?
> Duncan Cameron
>
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