Nelson;
The car in the photo in RP Cyc from the Jay Williams Collection has a
10-42 stencil from Havelock, NE so it was likely taken Circa 1943.
Unfortunately, the photographic record for those cars is meager and that
is perhaps the best to surface. It is likely that the CB&Q cars used
the Carmer cut levers until scrapping. Prevailing opinion is that those
USRA DS boxes were not particularly well-liked by the Q, and were not
even upgraded with AB brakes during their service lives.
Regards,
Rob Adams
Wellman, IA
On 8/22/11 10:16 AM, Nelson Moyer wrote:
>
> Car 120611 on page 17 of RPC has Carmer levers, not rotary. The caption
> states that cars repainted after 1936 received Everywhere West, but it
> does
> not state the photo date. The same photo was published in RMJ May 1998, p.
> 18 with a caption that the photo was from 1942, so which date is it?
>
> Nelson
>
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> Subject: RE: [CBQ] Carmer Levers
>
> The 1936 picture of 120611 showing rotary levers is contained in Vol16 of
> Railway Prototype Cyclopedia.
>
> gary laakso
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nelson Moyer
> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CBQ%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: 8/22/2011 8:55:21 AM
> Subject: [CBQ] Carmer Levers
>
> I posed the question on when Carmer levers were discontinued in favor of
> rotary levers on CB&Q USRA box cars on the STMFC list, but the question
> wasn't answered adequately. The feedback was that they were replaced
> as cars
> were shopped after the mid-1930s according to ICC Rule 3 recommendations.
> The latest photo I have showing Carmer levers is CB&Q 120611 taken in 1942
> right after the car was shopped at Havelock, but the Carmer levers
> were not
> changed to rotary type at that time. I have no photographic evidence of
> rotary lift levers on any CB&Q USRA DS car, so I don't know if any
> cars were
> changed. Are there any pictures of rotary levers on Q USRA box cars
> between
> during or before 1943-1949?
>
> Nelson
>
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