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Re: [CBQ] Help finding the history of FW&D engine 31

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Help finding the history of FW&D engine 31
From: Chris Kay <chris.a.kay@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 05:34:13 -0600
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Hol:

Thank you very much for the background on my grandfather.  R. Wright is how I 
had heard him referred to as well, but didn't know whether that carried over to 
his professional career or not.  Unfortunately, I never really knew him.  He 
died in 1966 when I was only 5.

Someone else on the distribution list sent me a picture of engine 31 from your 
book, and it is definitely not the same headlamp.  The headlamp I have looks 
much more like the one on engine 38 that we found on the Internet.  The 
headlight is definitely electric.  My older cousin thought the headlight came 
off a second hand locomotive that the FW&D purchased from another railroad.  
Sorry the picture didn't come through.  Here's a copy of it.  It's about 24" 
tall and 19" deep.  I really appreciate any insights you could provide on what 
locomotive this came from.

Thank you very much,


Chris




On Aug 15, 2011, at 7:44 AM, HOL WAGNER wrote:

> 
> Chris:
> 
> I met your grandfather (known on the railroad as R. Wright Armstrong) several 
> times in the early 1960s when I was a very young man researching FW&D 
> equipment in the Fort Worth general offices for my 1970 book on the subject. 
> He was always friendly and helpful to my efforts, and I have always been 
> impressed that he took seriously the idea that a high school student could be 
> researching a detailed study of the motive power and other equipment of the 
> C&S and FW&D.
> 
> As to the headlight you now have in your back yard, I have to question 
> whether it is in fact from FW&D 31. As Ken Martin has noted, the 31 was a 
> small 0-4-0 switcher, one of a pair ordered by Gen. Grenville M. Dodge and 
> built by the Cooke Locomotive Works in the spring of 1888, the other as 
> Denver, Texas & Fort Worth No. 19, eventually becoming C&S 501. As Ken noted, 
> the 31 was retired and scrapped in 1906 and in all likelihood never received 
> an electric headlight. The rather well known photo of the 31, reproduced in 
> "The Colorado Road," was handed out by the railroad itself, along with a view 
> of engine No. 1, as examples of the road's early motive power. It shows the 
> 31 equipped with the large box-like kerosene headlight with which it was 
> almost certainly equipped for its entire life. You say the lamp in your 
> possession is similar to one in a photo of FW&D 38. The 38 was a second-hand 
> Union Pacific locomotive acquired by the "Denver" early in the 20th Century, 
> and it lasted into the 1940s. Outfitted with an electric headlight in the 
> early Teens, it was subsequently fitted with a newer, more modern headlight. 
> Both of these electric headlights -- as with the vast majority of locomotive 
> headlights powered by electricity (Burlington's famous homemade "cuckoo 
> clock" headlights being a notable exception) -- were round or cylindrical, 
> with illuminated number boards on each side, either flat on the cylinder or 
> jutting outward on "wings." So if your headlight is a big (close to 3 feet 
> tall), boxy affair with a kerosene lamp inside and an exhuast vent on the 
> top, then it could indeed be from FW&D 31. If, however, it is a smaller 
> cylindrical headlight illuminated by a single light bulb in the concave 
> reflector, then it almost certainly was never mounted on the 31, and the fact 
> that it was manufactured by Buda would seem to date its manufacture to the 
> early 1900s, as electric lights were replacing oil lamps.
> 
> The link to the photo of you headlight was not in your message, so I can't 
> tell what it looks like.
> 
> Hol Wagner 
> 
> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> From: chris.a.kay@comcast.net
> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 21:03:35 -0600
> Subject: [CBQ] Help finding the history of FW&D engine 31
> 
> > My grandfather, Robert W. Armstrong, was a VP of the FW&D railroad. One of 
> > the souvenirs he collected was the headlamp from engine 31 of the FW&D. I 
> > can't find a picture of this engine nor any history about the engine. I did 
> > find this picture of engine 38. The link is here:
> > 
> > http://www.yesteryeardepot.com/FWD38.JPG
> > 
> > I believe the headlamp on engine 38 looks like the headlamp I have 
> > installed in my backyard. Here's a picture of the headlamp I inherited from 
> > my grandfather. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I would really like to know more about the history of the engine and the 
> > headlamp. The headlamp came with a plate on top describing the manufacturer:
> > 
> > "Buda-Ross"
> > Headlamps
> > Mfd by
> > The Buda Co
> > Chicago
> > 
> > There's not much on the Internet about the headlamps or the Buda company. 
> > Any information about engine 31 or the headlamp would be greatly 
> > appreciated.
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you very much,
> > 
> > 
> > Chris Kay
> 
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