You are absolutely right John...the first time I ever heard the term "Speeder"
was in the first series of the Hardy Boys books by Franklin W. Dixon THE TOWER
TREASURE. The context was that the real thief who had robbed old Hurd
Applegate of his treasure in the tower was Red Jackley....an ex railroader who
escaped on his SPEEDER. It is not a railroad term and its use marks the user
as a "non rail"...no offense but thats how it is.
I never ever heard any railroader refer to his MOTOR CAR as anything but a
MOTOR CAR. "Car House and/or tool house is indeed the correct railroad term
for the building where a MOTOR CAR was kept.
Just by way of additional "confusing" information the first Zephyrs were
referred to as MOTOR CARS just following the heritage of the gas or diesel
electric passenger MOTOR CARS. If you look at the ICC report for the 1939
collision of the Pioneer Zephyr and the engine of a local freight train at
Napier, MO there is a copy of a train order addressed to Train No. 21 MOTOR
CAR No. 9900. Even into the 1950's diesel locomotives on the Burlington were
referred to as MOTORS. That's the way they were officially referred to in
train orders.
Just follow the old grammer rule which says..."Context determines meaning".
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: John D. Mitchell, Jr. <cbqrr47@yahoo.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 9:26 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Speeder Shed.
Just for general information, on the Q, they were called "car houses" or in
some cases, "tool houses". I think "speeder' is a slang term. Most railroaders
called them "motor cars". An old timer told me one time that "speeder"
originally applied to three wheel velocipede hand cars. When railroad men did
talk about speeders, they were talking almost always about the small one or two
man motor cars not the larger motor cars used by sections and other gangs.
From: Sam Cook <trains@sjcook.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Speeder Shed.
I would be glad to assist if you want to come measure ours.
(As long as we get a set of the drawings!)
It is not in very good condition, but could be restored.
http://sullivanhistory.org/depot/platform/toolshed/index.htm
Sam Cook, Milan, MO
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dr strangelove wrote:
> HI! I will be trying to build a speeder shed in Z scale, and it will be a
> kit-bashed project using one that is already produced. I have seen a couple
> of pictures of the
> ones used on the Q and I see it is rectangular shape with the doors off to
> one side. One picture I have seen, shows the door on the left and another a
> door on the
> right. I know sometimes pictures from slides and whatnot get reversed. Were
> they all standard with the doors all on the one side or the other as per a
> plan or would it
> depend on where it was located, track side, ect?? I also take it they were
> the standard Q red paint-scheme? Thanks
>
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