Thanks for the OK and I will do that, you never know it may generate some
information.
Gloria
--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "cvlk" <cvlk@...> wrote:
>
> Gloria-
> I'm not a member of that group....if you are and would like to post it for
> greater exposure, that would be great. Anyone wanting to contact me directly
> can do so at
> cvlk@...
>
> Thanks,
> Charlie Vlk
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gloria
> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 3:52 PM
> Subject: [CBQ] Re: Burlington IA Members?
>
>
>
> Why not post this on the Yahoo/early rails group also?
>
> Gloria
>
> --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "cvlk" <cvlk@> wrote:
> >
> > Doug, Bill-
> >
> > There is no rush on this project, if you guys can scout out the local
> libraries, etc.. there might even be other sources. I have gone through all
> the online resources and even ordered a photo book of exhibits at the Worlds
> Fair of 1893 where the "Z" was on display... but it was not photographed.
> Westinghouse published a number of pamphlets on Air Brake Trials but no
> photos of the test trains nor the car.
> > There is some conflicting data on when the car was built.... some rr
> sources say July 1884 and others show July 1885. Worse, there is some
> indication that there might have been two cars.... the "Z" and ...maybe a
> "Y"... because in the renumbering there are two cars listed. One might have
> been a similar waycar-like body air brake instruction car rather than a
> dynamometer because we can't find any railraod references to more than one.
> > I also would like to find some earlier photos of CB&Q freight equipment,
> especially waycars. There is a shot of Aurora Shops taken some time in the
> 1870s (???) that show a variety of waycars that are very different from the
> pattern we know of.... very narrow, short length, and tall cupolas on a
> variety of different carbodies including bobbers. One shot on the CB&N also
> shows a more normal-looking waycar but with a fourth window on a 28' six
> window body on the end of the car behind the cupola.
> > Of course, drawings would be as good as photos.... I would like to
> document where CB&Q information of any kind resides besides the known
> collections at the Newberry and other places. Apparently the material at the
> Burlington Library is not cataloged.... a list of what they have and what is
> at the Des Moines County Historical Society would be nice for the society
> (and them!) to have. The knowledge of our membership could be helpful because
> even the Newberry, with competent staff, has some mislabeled material and
> uncatalogued collections.
> >
> > The same is true for members living near other "Burlington Towns".....
> Galesburg, Denver, Havelock, etc.... I am amazed at the "holes" in the
> recorded history of the CB&Q. While some of the lack of material can be
> ascribed to the Chicago Fire, the later Chicago CB&Q HQ Fire, and the BN
> merger.... there has to be more material out there! If we could document
> where it exists maybe we could get a project going to get it digitized so
> that it doesn't get tossed in the general trend of libraries getting rid of
> paper and print records. I was at the Northwestern University Transportation
> Museum and was appalled at the deterioating condition of the collection...
> the university obviously hasn't had any curator who was interested in the
> material for decades and much of it was multilated, disinigrating, and
> randomly shelved. Some Newberry files cannot be viewed because of poor
> condition of the paper. Absent our own archives, this is at least something
> the CB&Q enthusiasts can get involved in to preserve the history of the
> Burlington Route.
> >
> > Charlie Vlk
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Douglas Harding
> > To: cvlk@
> > Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 7:48 AM
> > Subject: Re: Burlington IA Members?
> >
> >
> > Charlie I live about 50 miles from Burlington. Can't do anything this
> week, but perhaps in another week or two I can make a trip over there if you
> don't hear from anyone else.
> >
> >
> >
> > Doug Harding
> >
> > www.iowacentralrr.org
> >
> .
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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