Why not post this on the Yahoo/early rails group also?
Gloria
--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "cvlk" <cvlk@...> wrote:
>
> Doug, Bill-
>
> There is no rush on this project, if you guys can scout out the local
> libraries, etc.. there might even be other sources. I have gone through
> all the online resources and even ordered a photo book of exhibits at the
> Worlds Fair of 1893 where the "Z" was on display... but it was not
> photographed. Westinghouse published a number of pamphlets on Air Brake
> Trials but no photos of the test trains nor the car.
> There is some conflicting data on when the car was built.... some rr sources
> say July 1884 and others show July 1885. Worse, there is some indication
> that there might have been two cars.... the "Z" and ...maybe a "Y"... because
> in the renumbering there are two cars listed. One might have been a similar
> waycar-like body air brake instruction car rather than a dynamometer because
> we can't find any railraod references to more than one.
> I also would like to find some earlier photos of CB&Q freight equipment,
> especially waycars. There is a shot of Aurora Shops taken some time in the
> 1870s (???) that show a variety of waycars that are very different from the
> pattern we know of.... very narrow, short length, and tall cupolas on a
> variety of different carbodies including bobbers. One shot on the CB&N also
> shows a more normal-looking waycar but with a fourth window on a 28' six
> window body on the end of the car behind the cupola.
> Of course, drawings would be as good as photos.... I would like to document
> where CB&Q information of any kind resides besides the known collections at
> the Newberry and other places. Apparently the material at the Burlington
> Library is not cataloged.... a list of what they have and what is at the Des
> Moines County Historical Society would be nice for the society (and them!) to
> have. The knowledge of our membership could be helpful because even the
> Newberry, with competent staff, has some mislabeled material and uncatalogued
> collections.
>
> The same is true for members living near other "Burlington Towns".....
> Galesburg, Denver, Havelock, etc.... I am amazed at the "holes" in the
> recorded history of the CB&Q. While some of the lack of material can be
> ascribed to the Chicago Fire, the later Chicago CB&Q HQ Fire, and the BN
> merger.... there has to be more material out there! If we could document
> where it exists maybe we could get a project going to get it digitized so
> that it doesn't get tossed in the general trend of libraries getting rid of
> paper and print records. I was at the Northwestern University
> Transportation Museum and was appalled at the deterioating condition of the
> collection... the university obviously hasn't had any curator who was
> interested in the material for decades and much of it was multilated,
> disinigrating, and randomly shelved. Some Newberry files cannot be viewed
> because of poor condition of the paper. Absent our own archives, this is at
> least something the CB&Q enthusiasts can get involved in to preserve the
> history of the Burlington Route.
>
> Charlie Vlk
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Douglas Harding
> To: cvlk@...
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 7:48 AM
> Subject: Re: Burlington IA Members?
>
>
> Charlie I live about 50 miles from Burlington. Can't do anything this week,
> but perhaps in another week or two I can make a trip over there if you don't
> hear from anyone else.
>
>
>
> Doug Harding
>
> www.iowacentralrr.org
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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