Gloria-
I'm not a member of that group....if you are and would like to post it for
greater exposure, that would be great. Anyone wanting to contact me directly
can do so at
cvlk@comcast.net
Thanks,
Charlie Vlk
----- Original Message -----
From: Gloria
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 3:52 PM
Subject: [CBQ] Re: Burlington IA Members?
Why not post this on the Yahoo/early rails group also?
Gloria
--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "cvlk" <cvlk@...> wrote:
>
> Doug, Bill-
>
> There is no rush on this project, if you guys can scout out the local
libraries, etc.. there might even be other sources. I have gone through all the
online resources and even ordered a photo book of exhibits at the Worlds Fair
of 1893 where the "Z" was on display... but it was not photographed.
Westinghouse published a number of pamphlets on Air Brake Trials but no photos
of the test trains nor the car.
> There is some conflicting data on when the car was built.... some rr
sources say July 1884 and others show July 1885. Worse, there is some
indication that there might have been two cars.... the "Z" and ...maybe a
"Y"... because in the renumbering there are two cars listed. One might have
been a similar waycar-like body air brake instruction car rather than a
dynamometer because we can't find any railraod references to more than one.
> I also would like to find some earlier photos of CB&Q freight equipment,
especially waycars. There is a shot of Aurora Shops taken some time in the
1870s (???) that show a variety of waycars that are very different from the
pattern we know of.... very narrow, short length, and tall cupolas on a variety
of different carbodies including bobbers. One shot on the CB&N also shows a
more normal-looking waycar but with a fourth window on a 28' six window body on
the end of the car behind the cupola.
> Of course, drawings would be as good as photos.... I would like to document
where CB&Q information of any kind resides besides the known collections at the
Newberry and other places. Apparently the material at the Burlington Library is
not cataloged.... a list of what they have and what is at the Des Moines County
Historical Society would be nice for the society (and them!) to have. The
knowledge of our membership could be helpful because even the Newberry, with
competent staff, has some mislabeled material and uncatalogued collections.
>
> The same is true for members living near other "Burlington Towns".....
Galesburg, Denver, Havelock, etc.... I am amazed at the "holes" in the recorded
history of the CB&Q. While some of the lack of material can be ascribed to the
Chicago Fire, the later Chicago CB&Q HQ Fire, and the BN merger.... there has
to be more material out there! If we could document where it exists maybe we
could get a project going to get it digitized so that it doesn't get tossed in
the general trend of libraries getting rid of paper and print records. I was at
the Northwestern University Transportation Museum and was appalled at the
deterioating condition of the collection... the university obviously hasn't had
any curator who was interested in the material for decades and much of it was
multilated, disinigrating, and randomly shelved. Some Newberry files cannot be
viewed because of poor condition of the paper. Absent our own archives, this is
at least something the CB&Q enthusiasts can get involved in to preserve the
history of the Burlington Route.
>
> Charlie Vlk
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Douglas Harding
> To: cvlk@...
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 7:48 AM
> Subject: Re: Burlington IA Members?
>
>
> Charlie I live about 50 miles from Burlington. Can't do anything this week,
but perhaps in another week or two I can make a trip over there if you don't
hear from anyone else.
>
>
>
> Doug Harding
>
> www.iowacentralrr.org
>
.
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