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Re: [CBQ] Arrival/Departure Times-Mileage offsets,etc

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From: STEVEN HOLDING <sholding@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 19:49:18 -0800 (PST)
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And the time keepers used the train sheets from the Dispatchers offices to 
verify the crews on the trains
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From: "Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com" <Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com>
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Sent: Sun, December 19, 2010 2:07:15 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Arrival/Departure Times-Mileage offsets,etc

  

I have no idea of the actual miles involved and Leo will expound in detail 
later 
re "step-on-step-off" agreements, but there was interdivisional activity on the 
Kansas City-Omaha trains..No's 20-21 (Silver Streak), 26-27, and 22-23.  I 
never 
realized it at the time, but heard occasional comments regarding "equalizing 
mileage".

These trains between St. Joe--Kansas City and P Junc were on the St. Joe 
division..From P Junc to Omaha it was Creston Division...The crews were based 
at 
St. Joe which was their home terminal...If I understand it correctly the train 
crew...or maybe just an indivdual trainman would begin his day at St. Joe 
working South from St. Joe to KC on No. 20.  He would come right back out of KC 
on 21 working to Omaha, then returning to St. Joe on No. 22.  This might not 
have been the case for every crew, but it it's an example...There was 
interdivisional run plus a "step-on step off" arrangment which Leo is planning 
to discuss in further detail.

This stuff must have been a nightmare both for the divisional 
timekeepers...which was a function performed in the local Superintendent's 
office as well as the local BRT and ORC "grievers".

Pete

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From: qutlx1 <qutlx1@aol.com>
To: cbq <cbq@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Dec 19, 2010 10:54 am
Subject: [CBQ] Arrival/Departure Times-Mileage offsets,etc

W/o spending hours digging through the files for exact details,I'll 
generalize. 

The lodges would keep track of the miles run in interdivisional service. 
Then from time to time one postion on the crew from the "visiting" lodge 
would be posted for bid by only the "host" lodge. So for example a Aurora 
brkmns position on a passenger turn running between CUS and Burlington would be 
posted only for bids from a Ottumwa division man. He would take the job 
until the miles had been offset.

Same methodology applied in many places and services. For example a 
Galesburg Division man would work an Aurora job(if anyone was interested) to 
offset the miles Aurora men had accumulated running "around the horn" from time 
to time. I believe(though not totally sure) that if no Galesburg man was 
interested in working an Aurora job for a period of time then the youngest 
extra list brakeman was "forced" to take the job. Forcing people w/in your 
own division was tough but interdivisionally made for real hardships.

These are the kinds of things and many others that the Local 
Chairman(griever) got his monthly stipend to 
handle.

I don't have the files for Ottumwa on how they divided the work between 
East and West lodges. I can say with certainty from the Aurora files that for 
a while in the 50s or 60s the Aurora crews operated far beyond Burlington.

The discussion as to which lodge was entitled to which work would come up 
from time to time and be resolved by the General Chairman. I was recently 
thinking that this whole subject could be an article someday.

Leo Phillipp

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