I have been reluctant to jump in as I have not seen a photo of the Oriental
O-1a. I wonder if if might be a modle of one of the FW&D E-4a1, which were
O-1a clones, with 64 in drivers and all were oil burners according to
Wagner's Colorado Road. I bashed a LMB O-1a into a E-4a1 as I thought that
was my only option. The part I was not sure of, and still have some
questions is the details of the oil bunker, as few photos exist that I can
find of those engine's tenders.
Pat
Homan
---- Original Message -----
From: "William Barber" <clipperw@gmail.com>
To: <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 10:40 AM
Subject: [CBQ] Re: Oriental O-1a
> John,
>
> I have seen no response to your question. Yahoo strips off
> attachments and photos. Did you post the photo in the photo file? The
> Oriental Limited model of the O-1a was a fairly accurate
> representation, but C&S 803 wasn't really an O-1a. It was more
> closely related to Q's earlier O-1 class mikados. However, the O-1
> class had 64" drivers. The O-1s were built in 1910 and 1911. The
> similar C&S mikes were built in 1911. Both had large cabs (some early
> O-1a's also had larger cabs), and small sand domes as compared to the
> O-1a's.
>
> As for an oil burning version of the O-1a, there weren't many.
> Looking through the 1935 locomotive assignment sheet in Corbin's
> book, none of the O-1a's were equipped to burn oil. In the later 1952
> assignment sheet, I find only 3 that had been converted to oil. These
> were 5063, 5077 and 5127, all assigned to the Sterling Division.
> There were a number of O-1a's assigned to Lines West that were
> lignite burners and a number of the larger O-2s were converted to oil.
>
> As for the 803, it was an oil burner in 1959 when I saw it under
> steam. When it was converted to oil, I do not know.
>
> Bill Barber
> Gravois Mills, MO
>
> On Dec 6, 2010, at 2:45 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>> Oriental O-1a
>> Posted by: "John Manion" railbass@comcast.net manionjohn68
>> Sun Dec 5, 2010 2:06 pm (PST)
>>
>>
>>
>> In answering a question recently on LMB O-1a's, I got out my
>> Oriental model
>> of a Q O-1a. The model is nicely painted and lettered for C&S #803.
>> However, it has the 64" drivers and short cab of a 4900, and #803
>> had 57"
>> drivers and a full cab. The model also has a straight-sided tender
>> with an
>> oil bunker. I am thinking this would be the arrangement for an O-1a
>> used
>> in the western divisions of the Q. I have glanced through my Q books -
>> Corbin, Hardy, Wagner, Spoor, Holck, and Burg's Campbell
>> Collection, and
>> been unable to find any photo of a similar oil-burning O-1a. I have
>> attached a photo of the model. Does anyone know what the prototype
>> of this
>> model would be and where it operated?
>> - John Manion
>> Denver, CO
>
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