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Subject: [CBQ] Re: Oriental O-1a
From: William Barber <clipperw@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 09:40:31 -0600
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John,

I have seen no response to your question. Yahoo strips off  
attachments and photos. Did you post the photo in the photo file? The  
Oriental Limited model of the O-1a was a fairly accurate  
representation, but C&S 803 wasn't really an O-1a. It was more  
closely related to Q's earlier O-1 class mikados. However, the O-1  
class had 64" drivers. The O-1s were built in 1910 and 1911. The  
similar C&S mikes were built in 1911. Both had large cabs (some early  
O-1a's also had larger cabs), and small sand domes as compared to the  
O-1a's.

As for an oil burning version of the O-1a, there weren't many.  
Looking through the 1935 locomotive assignment sheet in Corbin's  
book, none of the O-1a's were equipped to burn oil. In the later 1952  
assignment sheet, I find only 3 that had been converted to oil. These  
were 5063, 5077 and 5127, all assigned to the Sterling Division.  
There were a number of O-1a's assigned to Lines West that were  
lignite burners and a number of the larger O-2s were converted to oil.

As for the 803, it was an oil burner in 1959 when I saw it under  
steam. When it was converted to oil, I do not know.

Bill Barber
Gravois Mills, MO

On Dec 6, 2010, at 2:45 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> Oriental O-1a
> Posted by: "John Manion" railbass@comcast.net   manionjohn68
> Sun Dec 5, 2010 2:06 pm (PST)
>
>
>
> In answering a question recently on LMB O-1a's, I got out my  
> Oriental model
> of a Q O-1a. The model is nicely painted and lettered for C&S #803.
> However, it has the 64" drivers and short cab of a 4900, and #803  
> had 57"
> drivers and a full cab. The model also has a straight-sided tender  
> with an
> oil bunker. I am thinking this would be the arrangement for an O-1a  
> used
> in the western divisions of the Q. I have glanced through my Q books -
> Corbin, Hardy, Wagner, Spoor, Holck, and Burg's Campbell  
> Collection, and
> been unable to find any photo of a similar oil-burning O-1a. I have
> attached a photo of the model. Does anyone know what the prototype  
> of this
> model would be and where it operated?
> - John Manion
> Denver, CO



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