Wait a week.
What would locomotive Assignment (for maintenance) have to do with locomotive
usage? Just because a unit is assigned Lines West (for maintenance) doesn't
mean it couldn't travel all over the system. I know, as a kid, I have taken
pictures in the late 50s and early 60s of CGI (UP power pool, Clyde-Grand
Island, NE) passing thru Downers Grove with GP9s in the consist and as Bill
Barber has pointed-out earlier today, published photo evidence does exist that
proves that GP9s traveled into Lines East territory. Additionally, your
statement that the GP9s "were always assigned to Lincoln" is pure bunk. I have
in my grubby mitts three original Assignment (for maintenance) sheets
(Jan-Feb-Mar, 1968; Oct-Nov-Dec, 1968; and Jan-Feb-Mar, 1969) that I "borrowed"
from the roundhouse foreman's office at Aurora, back when I was hostling there.
All three sheets indicate that three GP9s (283, 288 & 289) were Assigned (for
maintenance) to Hannibal, MO - LINES EAST. Most all of the road freight power
was "Assigned" to Lincoln, Lines West for maintenance, but you must certainly
agree that all the "Lines West" GP20s,GP30s,GP35s,GP40s (all units in each
class) ventured east to Clyde, as did most of the SD7s,SD9s and SD24s that were
"Assigned" to Lincoln. During 1968, Lincoln was assigned 12 cab signaled E7s,
while McCook was assigned 10 E7s and 12 E8s (all ACS equipped) indicating that
Lines West maintenance points knew something about cab signals. Since I don't
have access to every quarterly Assignment sheet starting with June, 1956, nor
do I have any builder's photos of the "Q" GP9s, I'll reluctantly grant your
word that they were not built with ACS. That being the case, what do you
contend the device was in the box mounted on top the battery box on all 20
GP9s? Ron Copher, Karl Rethwisch and myself agree that the "box" appears to be
identical to the cab signal box we saw mounted (horizontally) on the floor in
the noses of E units, even though they were mounted "vertically" on the GP9s.
I can't find anyone who has an idea as to what else, other than cab signals,
would be contained in the "mystery box". Have you found anything?
Bob Campbell
--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, STEVEN HOLDING <sholding@...> wrote:
>
> Wait a minute
> Why would a Lines West engine have the cab signals. It is not listed as
> having
> Cab Signals and was always assigned to Lincoln per the reprinted assignment
> sheets the society has done.
> I think the mystery is still there
> Steve in SC
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: rgs20460 <amtrak347@...>
> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, August 8, 2010 3:17:37 PM
> Subject: [CBQ] Re: Mystery Box on Q GP9 #274
>
>
>
>
> Dave & Greg -
>
> The "Mystery Box" is definitely the Automatic Cab Signal box (disconnected by
> the time of the photo in 1969; no ACS induction bar behind end plate and
> below
> the steps). Due to the short hood area containing the Vapor Clarkson steam
> generator (deactivated) and "dry hopper", there wasn't any room to mount the
> ACS
> box other than on top of the battery box when originally installed. Being
> the
> post "Menk the Fink" era on the "Q", it was probably "engrained" in
> Mechanical
> Dept. hierarchy that it would not be "cost effective" to waste shop time to
> remove it; leave that for the upcoming "new Company, BN" to remove it when
> repainted.
>
> Wondering why Copher replied to this under the "Mystery Container" thread?
> Hope
> he reads his GTBs closer! Just teasin', RJ!
>
> Bob Campbell
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