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RE: [CBQ] Burlington-RI-Milwaukee Interchange in Washington, IA?

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From: Gerald & Virginia Edgar <vje68@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:15:04 -0600
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I agree with Dave.  I railfanned the area while attending U. of Iowa.  Also, 
when checking on whether an interchange ever existed @ some locale (short of 
going there & looking for old ROW) is to look @ Official Freight Equipment 
Regiosters as they cite where ea RR interchanged with other RR's. (or whether 
it was by trackage over another RR)

 

Dave - do you recall hearing that a portion of the old turntable @ Winfield 
(south of Washington) was put into someone's garage to allow them to turn their 
cars?



Gerald  


 



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From: Dave_Lotz@bellsouth.net
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:05:46 -0500
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Burlington-RI-Milwaukee Interchange in Washington, IA?

  



Hi Nelson,

Please remember that the purpose of the Sanborn maps were for Insurance
purposes and were focused on buildings, not trackage.

In BB30, both the Valuation map on page 48 and the Alignment chart on page
49 show that the Q trackage did connect with the CRI&P's on the East leg of
the wye. TO my knowledge the west leg of the wye did not connect. These
are railroad documents, so I trust them over the Sanborn maps.

If you look closely at the photo on Page 3 of Rails to a County Seat, you
can see a photo of this connection on the East leg of the wye, and the photo
on the bottom of page 59 shows Dennis Franzen standing where the Q had
pulled up it's rails, whereas the Rock's rails still remain. The ties
behind Dennis show the turnout at the "top" of the wye, and that matches
what can be seen in the photo on Page 3. And last, but not least,
photographically, take a look at the photo on the back cover of BB30 showing
a RI loco on the Q tracks south of the Q depot.

When I was interviewing retired railroad employees about the operations on
this line for these two publications, many of them through their stories
confirmed that this connection existed. One such story was that on a very
cold morning crews on the Milwaukee could not get their locomotive to start
and they convinced the Q crew to "jump" start the loco. To do this they had
to first travel over RI tracks to get to the Milwaukee's tracks as the Q and
the Milwaukee did not have a direct connection. This was all done without
the knowledge or permission of any of the three road's dispatchers.

Dave Lotz
Co-Author "Rails to a County Seat"
Author "Burlington Bulletin #30"

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From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Nelson
Moyer
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Subject: [CBQ] Burlington-RI-Milwaukee Interchange in Washington, IA?

While perusing Sanborn maps of Washington, IA, I noted that neither leg of
the wye connected to the RI tracks. This was a revelation, since Burlington
Bulletin #30 states on page 48 that "Here, the Burlington Line connected
with the Rock Island and also interchanged with the Milwaukee which was
immediately north of the RI tracks". The track map in BB#30 shows an
interchange on the East leg of the wye. The 1921 photo of the East leg of
the wye does not clearly show a connection, though the photo is not sharply
focused and poorly reproduced on page 3 of Rails to a County Seat.

My question is, was there an interchange between the Burlington and RI in
Washington, IA? The Sanborn maps do not show one, thought both stubs of the
wye are quite close to RI track.

Nelson Moyer

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