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RE: [CBQ] Re: Q Coaling and sanding towers

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From: "Nelson Moyer" <ku0a@mchsi.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 09:49:28 -0500
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I asked about open top coal bins like the ones in the structure archive in
the photo section of the BRHS web page, but got no replies. With a pending
bulletin on coaling towers, I'm wondering if these smaller structures will
be included. Actually, some were not so small, with two or three coal
chutes. I also asked for details about how coal was lifted up to the
elevated bins. Photos show a shed under or adjacent to the bins, but the
lift mechanism isn't shown in any picture I've found. Any information would
help model these small open bins.

Nelson Moyer

-----Original Message-----
From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Norm
Metcalf
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Q Coaling and sanding towers

HOL WAGNER wrote:
> OK, here's the "more authoritative answer" from the author of the 
> upcoming Bulletin on coaling stations:  Jonathan is right.  Most coaling 
> stations were painted black, but there were a number of wooden ones (and 
> even one or two steel ones) painted mineral red.  The Q had no clear cut 
> guidelines in this area, except that company buildings/structures were 
> to be painted mineral red (or simply "mineral," as it its often called 
> in company documents).  But far and away the majority of coaling 
> stations were painted black, and no photos have been located showing the 
> trestle or ramp type stations in any color but black.  Ironically, while 
> something in the vicinity of 95% of steel coaling stations seem to be 
> painted black, the companion steel water tanks were painted red -- 
> except, of course, for the few that were painted aluminum.  Sand houses 
> and sand storage bins all appear to have been painted mineral red, but 
> sand towers are another matter.  Here again they appear in either red or 
> black, with black once more the predominant color for both the later 
> metal ones and the earlier wooden ones.  So unless you're modeling a 
> specific prototype at a specific time, take your pick.
>  
> Hol Wagner
> 
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Norm Metcalf <mailto:n.metcalf@worldnet.att.net>
>     *To:* F. Hol Wagner, Jr. <mailto:holpennywagner@msn.com>
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, October 20, 2009 9:48 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [CBQ] Re: Q Coaling and sanding towers
> 
>     jonathanharris@earthlink.net <mailto:jonathanharris@earthlink.net>
>     wrote:
>      > Hi Verlin -
>      >
>      > Are you modeling a specific 'station'? or are you looking for
>     more general info on paint colors for coal and sand houses? The
>     reason I ask is that there are plenty of photos showing coaling
>     stations painted in red oxide as well as in black - wooden ones
>     anyway. Don't know if yours is wood, concrete, or one of the steel
>     Ogle ones, nor what era you model. My guess would be that use of
>     black paint came in relatively late and thatup through around WWII,
>     pretty much all the wooden service buildings were painted with red
>     lead paint.
>      >
>      > There's to be a BRHS Bulletin on these buildings, I believe, so
>     perhaps the author will provide a more authoritative answer.
>      >
>      > Are you scratch building the sand house etc? If so, where did you
>     find plans? If you're using a kit or ready-built model, which
>     one(s)? I know there have been several good, accurate models of CB&Q
>     coaling towers and water tanks. But I've never known what to do for
>     a sand house/tower.
>      >
>      > Good luck with your project!
>      >
>      > Jonathan
>      >
>      > --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com>,
>     "Railroader" <verlinwhite@...> wrote:
>      >> Hi everyone,
>      >> I am putting together a coal and sanding station and I need some
>     info,
>      >> 1-what color was the Sand House
>      >> 2-the color of the Sand Storage Bin
>      >> 3-the Sanding Tower
>      >> 4-the Hoist House
>      >> I know the Coaling Tower was Tar Cement Black
>      >>
>      >> Thank you for any help
>      >> Verlin Wite



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