FW&D 401(2nd) is in Lubbock, TX
FW&D 410 which became T&P 400 is in Marshall, TX.
So says Mr. Steve Goen of Wichita Falls now out on Semaphore Safari in New
Mexico.
Skip Waters
of Dallas, Texas
On Thu Jun 25th, 2009 7:35 PM EDT dfhollis@comcast.net wrote:
>I stand corrected.
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>From: "Norm Metcalf" <n.metcalf@worldnet.att.net>
>To: cbq@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:00:51 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
>Subject: Re: [CBQ] FW&D #410 (T&P #400)
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>HOL WAGNER wrote:
>> It was never leased to the T&P; that was FW&D 410.
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>> *Subject:* Re: [CBQ] FW&D #410 (T&P #400)
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>> dfhollis@comcast.net <mailto: dfhollis@comcast.net > wrote:
>> > The FW&D 410 stuffed and mounted in Lubbock is really the CB&Q
>> O-1A #4994 that was leased when to the T&P when it was finished
>> working on the C&S in Denver. There is some film of it in operation
>> in "The Last Steamers of the Colorado & Southern" video. It was
>> built in 1923 by Baldwin. Check the publication index on the BRHS
>> website and you'll find other pictures of the engine.
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "mardechris" < mardechris@yahoo.com
>> <mailto: mardechris@yahoo.com >>
>> > To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com <mailto: CBQ@yahoogroups.com >
>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:36:36 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada
>> Central
>> > Subject: [CBQ] FW&D #410 (T&P #400)
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>> > i! My name is Marde and I am addicted to trains. I learn by
>> listening and watching others who have much more knowledge about
>> trains than I do. Thanks many wonderful internet sites and books,
>> books and more books I am able to learn about the many things
>> pertaining to trains and railroading in general and very seldom
>> > have to ask questions.
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>> > This kind of sounds like an introduction to TA, better known as
>> 'Trains Anonymous'!
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>> > I do have a request for information. I am hunting any
>> information, pictures and/or diagrams I can find on FW&D #410. All
>> of my research is given to the T & P Depot Museum in Marshall,
>> Texas, where FW&D #410 now resides.
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>> > Let me tell you a little bit of what I do know.
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>> > T&P #400 started out with the FW&D as engine #410. She was one of
>> ten 2-8-2 Mikados (#401 thru #410) built by Baldwin in 1915 for
>> FW&D. She had her picture taken in Wichita Falls in 1932 by Otto
>> Perry. She was sold to T&P (and renumbered/painted to T&P #400) in
>> 1957 to be used in the flooded areas of the Red River. Trains
>> magazine has a page dedicated to her from August 1957. FW&D #410
>> (T&P #400) was placed in the Marshall city park in 1963 where she
>> lived until 2008. Part of her life in the park was spent
>> > enclosed in a building due to asbestos. In May of 2008 #400 was
>> moved to the T&P depot where she will be restored to a static display.
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>> > I found an article about railway preservation that said #400 was
>> 'heavily rebuilt and modernized' in 1940. What exactly would have
>> been done to her at during the rebuild? It also made mention of a
>> breakage that was too costly to repair that attributed to being
>> retired. Does anyone know what this breakage could have been? From
>> what I understand, when the #400 was moved to the city park, she
>> moved there under her own power.
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>> > I have heard that she was wrecked in the 1940s, but I can not
>> find any documentation or pictures on the wreck. When facing #410
>> from the front, you can see the date "1946" on the frame under the
>> smoke box. I assume this is from the wreck.
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>> > In "The Colorado Road" there is a diagram of FW&D #401 thru #410.
>> What are the chances of the drawings still existing for this
>> particular group of locomotives?
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>> > I would appreciate any information, stories, and hopefully
>> pictures that you all would like to share. Did I mention pictures? I
>> have located a few --the Otto Perry picture from 1932 is the one I
>> can find of her under FW&D. Also, "The Colorado Road" by Hol Wagner,
>> Jr. has a picture of her The Trains article has pictures as T&P. All
>> other pictures I have found are after she was retired and put in the
>> park.
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>> > Thanks again for your help.
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>> > Marde
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>> > *new member of
>> > Trains Anonymous
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