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Re: [CBQ] FW&D #410 (T&P #400)

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] FW&D #410 (T&P #400)
From: Norm Metcalf <n.metcalf@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:00:51 -0600
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HOL WAGNER wrote:
> It was never leased to the T&P; that was FW&D 410.
> 
>    
>     *Subject:* Re: [CBQ] FW&D #410 (T&P #400)
> 
>     dfhollis@comcast.net <mailto:dfhollis@comcast.net> wrote:
>      > The FW&D 410 stuffed and mounted in Lubbock is really the CB&Q 
>     O-1A #4994 that was leased when to the T&P when it was finished
>     working on the C&S in Denver. There is some film of it in operation
>     in "The Last Steamers of the Colorado & Southern" video. It was
>     built in 1923 by Baldwin. Check the publication index on the BRHS
>     website and you'll find other pictures of the engine.
>      > ----- Original Message -----
>      > From: "mardechris" <mardechris@yahoo.com
>     <mailto:mardechris@yahoo.com>>
>      > To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
>      > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:36:36 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada
>     Central
>      > Subject: [CBQ] FW&D #410 (T&P #400)
>      >
>      > i! My name is Marde and I am addicted to trains. I learn by
>     listening and watching others who have much more knowledge about
>     trains than I do. Thanks many wonderful internet sites and books,
>     books and more books I am able to learn about the many things
>     pertaining to trains and railroading in general and very seldom
>      > have to ask questions.
>      >
>      > This kind of sounds like an introduction to TA, better known as
>     'Trains Anonymous'!
>      >
>      > I do have a request for information. I am hunting any
>     information, pictures and/or diagrams I can find on FW&D #410. All
>     of my research is given to the T & P Depot Museum in Marshall,
>     Texas, where FW&D #410 now resides.
>      >
>      > Let me tell you a little bit of what I do know.
>      >
>      > T&P #400 started out with the FW&D as engine #410. She was one of
>     ten 2-8-2 Mikados (#401 thru #410) built by Baldwin in 1915 for
>     FW&D. She had her picture taken in Wichita Falls in 1932 by Otto
>     Perry. She was sold to T&P (and renumbered/painted to T&P #400) in
>     1957 to be used in the flooded areas of the Red River. Trains
>     magazine has a page dedicated to her from August 1957. FW&D #410
>     (T&P #400) was placed in the Marshall city park in 1963 where she
>     lived until 2008. Part of her life in the park was spent
>      > enclosed in a building due to asbestos. In May of 2008 #400 was
>     moved to the T&P depot where she will be restored to a static display.
>      >
>      > I found an article about railway preservation that said #400 was
>     'heavily rebuilt and modernized' in 1940. What exactly would have
>     been done to her at during the rebuild? It also made mention of a
>     breakage that was too costly to repair that attributed to being
>     retired. Does anyone know what this breakage could have been? From
>     what I understand, when the #400 was moved to the city park, she
>     moved there under her own power.
>      >
>      > I have heard that she was wrecked in the 1940s, but I can not
>     find any documentation or pictures on the wreck. When facing #410
>     from the front, you can see the date "1946" on the frame under the
>     smoke box. I assume this is from the wreck.
>      >
>      > In "The Colorado Road" there is a diagram of FW&D #401 thru #410.
>     What are the chances of the drawings still existing for this
>     particular group of locomotives?
>      >
>      > I would appreciate any information, stories, and hopefully
>     pictures that you all would like to share. Did I mention pictures? I
>     have located a few --the Otto Perry picture from 1932 is the one I
>     can find of her under FW&D. Also, "The Colorado Road" by Hol Wagner,
>     Jr. has a picture of her The Trains article has pictures as T&P. All
>     other pictures I have found are after she was retired and put in the
>     park.
>      >
>      > Thanks again for your help.
>      >
>      > Marde
>      >
>      > *new member of
>      > Trains Anonymous



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