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Re: [CBQ] FW&D #410 (T&P #400)

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] FW&D #410 (T&P #400)
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Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:32:38 +0000 (UTC)
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The FW&D 410 stuffed and mounted in Lubbock is really the CB&Q  O-1A #4994 that 
was leased when to the T&P when it was finished working on the C&S in Denver. 
There is some film of it in operation in "The Last Steamers of the Colorado & 
Southern" video. It was built in 1923 by Baldwin. Check the publication index 
on the BRHS website and you'll find other pictures of the engine. 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "mardechris" <mardechris@yahoo.com> 
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:36:36 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: [CBQ] FW&D #410 (T&P #400) 








i! My name is Marde and I am addicted to trains. I learn by listening and 
watching others who have much more knowledge about trains than I do. Thanks 
many wonderful internet sites and books, books and more books I am able to 
learn about the many things pertaining to trains and railroading in general and 
very seldom 
have to ask questions. 

This kind of sounds like an introduction to TA, better known as 'Trains 
Anonymous'! 

I do have a request for information. I am hunting any information, pictures 
and/or diagrams I can find on FW&D #410. All of my research is given to the T & 
P Depot Museum in Marshall, Texas, where FW&D #410 now resides. 

Let me tell you a little bit of what I do know. 

T&P #400 started out with the FW&D as engine #410. She was one of ten 2-8-2 
Mikados (#401 thru #410) built by Baldwin in 1915 for FW&D. She had her picture 
taken in Wichita Falls in 1932 by Otto Perry. She was sold to T&P (and 
renumbered/painted to T&P #400) in 1957 to be used in the flooded areas of the 
Red River. Trains magazine has a page dedicated to her from August 1957. FW&D 
#410 (T&P #400) was placed in the Marshall city park in 1963 where she lived 
until 2008. Part of her life in the park was spent 
enclosed in a building due to asbestos. In May of 2008 #400 was moved to the 
T&P depot where she will be restored to a static display. 

I found an article about railway preservation that said #400 was 'heavily 
rebuilt and modernized' in 1940. What exactly would have been done to her at 
during the rebuild? It also made mention of a breakage that was too costly to 
repair that attributed to being retired. Does anyone know what this breakage 
could have been? From what I understand, when the #400 was moved to the city 
park, she moved there under her own power. 

I have heard that she was wrecked in the 1940s, but I can not find any 
documentation or pictures on the wreck. When facing #410 from the front, you 
can see the date "1946" on the frame under the smoke box. I assume this is from 
the wreck. 

In "The Colorado Road" there is a diagram of FW&D #401 thru #410. What are the 
chances of the drawings still existing for this particular group of 
locomotives? 

I would appreciate any information, stories, and hopefully pictures that you 
all would like to share. Did I mention pictures? I have located a few --the 
Otto Perry picture from 1932 is the one I can find of her under FW&D. Also, 
"The Colorado Road" by Hol Wagner, Jr. has a picture of her The Trains article 
has pictures as T&P. All other pictures I have found are after she was retired 
and put in the park. 

Thanks again for your help. 

Marde 

*new member of 
Trains Anonymous 




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