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From: "Russ Strodtz" <normansen@groundcontrol.us>
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:59:07 -0500
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Glen,

And "Boysen Tunnel" is what and where?

Barstow to Denrock (in general) 112# RE SH CWR 1965

Russ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "GLEN HAUG" <glenehaug@msn.com>
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Sent: Sunday, 19 April, 2009 20:30
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Welded Rail



Rick:



Do you have a copy of the alignment charts from the 60's that (I believe) 
Steve Holding put on CD?  A study of these would give you quite a bit of 
information about the locations of welded rail on the Q.



I'm not looking at my alignment charts right now, so I am going from memory. 
If we ignore 78' rails and the Boysen Tunnel for the moment, I think the 
earliest welded rail on the Q is 1961.  The earliest roll date stamped on 
the rail that I have seen is 1959.  The vast majority, if not all, of the 
new welded rail from the early 60's on is 136# CF&I.



The majority of new 136# welded rail was on Lines West, practically all of 
it west of Hastings on the Denver line, and there was a lot of it on this 
line.  I would guess that this was because the Denver line had most of the 
112# that was older than 1940, and I would suspect that it included a fair 
amount of OH (open hearth) rail as opposed to CC (control cooled) rail. 
There were big welded rail programs throughout the 60's on the Denver line. 
There were also small amounts of new 136# near Greenwood, Nebraska in the 
late 60's.  The Boysen Tunnel had 129#TR welded rail, laid in 1950.



Lines East had much less welded rail, probably because much of the rail was 
131#, 129#TR, and 112#TR.  And I believe the 112#RE had a service date of 
1940 or after with much of it in the 50's, and I think it was all control 
cooled.  There were also a lot of 78' rails on Lines East.  I don't remember 
any welded rail between Creston and the Missouri River.  Nevertheless, there 
were respectable amounts of 136# welded between Princeton and Neponset, 
between Mt. Pleasant and Ottumwa, on Albia Hill, and between Shannon and 
Woodburn.  Also, much of the rail between Macomb and Camp Point was 136# 
CWR.  And right at merger, BN began to lay 136# CWR between Chicago and 
Aurora using rail ordered by the Q.



The rail between Barstow and Denrock, referred to in a previous post was 
112# SH Welded in 1965, probably using the bolted 112# recovered from Lines 
West.  There was also quite a bit of SH 112# welded between Bushnell and 
Vermont, and there may have been some between Concord and Centralia.



Glen Haug



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From: rkeil6721@hotmail.com
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:53:21 -0500
Subject: [CBQ] Welded Rail








When did welded rail come into common use on teh Q. I'm specifically asking 
about the mainline west of Creston, IA to the Missouri River.

Thanks

Ricky Keil

Bellevue, NE

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