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RE: [CBQ] Welded Rail

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Subject: RE: [CBQ] Welded Rail
From: Rick Keil <rkeil6721@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:37:01 -0500
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I do not have the CD.  Thanks for the information as I'm planning on modeling 
the Walnut Creek bridge just west of Red Oak as it would have appeared in the Q 
days.  Wife and I took a trip there this morning to get some pics.  Of course, 
right after we left to go home, we met an eastbound only about 3 miles up the 
road.  Would have been nice to catch it on the bridge (would have been much 
nicer to know what a Q train looked like on it!).

 

Ricky
 
> To: cbq@yahoogroups.com
> From: glenehaug@msn.com
> Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 18:30:39 -0700
> Subject: RE: [CBQ] Welded Rail
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> Rick:
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> Do you have a copy of the alignment charts from the 60's that (I believe) 
> Steve Holding put on CD? A study of these would give you quite a bit of 
> information about the locations of welded rail on the Q.
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> I'm not looking at my alignment charts right now, so I am going from memory. 
> If we ignore 78' rails and the Boysen Tunnel for the moment, I think the 
> earliest welded rail on the Q is 1961. The earliest roll date stamped on the 
> rail that I have seen is 1959. The vast majority, if not all, of the new 
> welded rail from the early 60's on is 136# CF&I.
> 
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> 
> The majority of new 136# welded rail was on Lines West, practically all of it 
> west of Hastings on the Denver line, and there was a lot of it on this line. 
> I would guess that this was because the Denver line had most of the 112# that 
> was older than 1940, and I would suspect that it included a fair amount of OH 
> (open hearth) rail as opposed to CC (control cooled) rail. There were big 
> welded rail programs throughout the 60's on the Denver line. There were also 
> small amounts of new 136# near Greenwood, Nebraska in the late 60's. The 
> Boysen Tunnel had 129#TR welded rail, laid in 1950.
> 
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> 
> Lines East had much less welded rail, probably because much of the rail was 
> 131#, 129#TR, and 112#TR. And I believe the 112#RE had a service date of 1940 
> or after with much of it in the 50's, and I think it was all control cooled. 
> There were also a lot of 78' rails on Lines East. I don't remember any welded 
> rail between Creston and the Missouri River. Nevertheless, there were 
> respectable amounts of 136# welded between Princeton and Neponset, between 
> Mt. Pleasant and Ottumwa, on Albia Hill, and between Shannon and Woodburn. 
> Also, much of the rail between Macomb and Camp Point was 136# CWR. And right 
> at merger, BN began to lay 136# CWR between Chicago and Aurora using rail 
> ordered by the Q.
> 
> 
> 
> The rail between Barstow and Denrock, referred to in a previous post was 112# 
> SH Welded in 1965, probably using the bolted 112# recovered from Lines West. 
> There was also quite a bit of SH 112# welded between Bushnell and Vermont, 
> and there may have been some between Concord and Centralia.
> 
> 
> 
> Glen Haug 
> 
> 
> 
> To: cbq@yahoogroups.com
> From: rkeil6721@hotmail.com
> Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:53:21 -0500
> Subject: [CBQ] Welded Rail
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> When did welded rail come into common use on teh Q. I'm specifically asking 
> about the mainline west of Creston, IA to the Missouri River.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ricky Keil
> 
> Bellevue, NE
> 
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