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[CBQ] Re: Lettering on E & F Units

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Subject: [CBQ] Re: Lettering on E & F Units
From: William Barber <clipperw@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 13:08:29 -0600
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Jim,

Every EMD locomotive was delivered with a builder's plate. There were  
no exceptions. I believe all other manufacturers did the same thing.  
The EMD plate evolved over the years in design and style. The so  
called "football" plate was used the longest.  The builder's plate  
was standard no matter what RR the locomotive was being delivered to.  
The model designation plates, while available from EMD, were not  
standard equipment. They were customer choice and most RRs didn't  
choose to display them as they had their own designation for the  
locomotive model. I believe that the Q started using them in the mid  
to late '50s. I don't know what triggered that decision.

As for the small "F" symbol at one end of the unit, that also was  
standard equipment from the beginning and was an ICC and later FRA  
requirement. The regulations states that the front of a locomotive  
shall be identified. Even when both ends were the same such as a "B"  
unit, a GG1 electric or a GE center cab switcher, they had to have  
one end designated as the front. Locomotives that generally were  
operated long hood forward, such as PRR, GN or the Southern, had the  
"F" indicator at that end. Even the wiring diagrams that EMD created  
for these RRs was modified so that the traction motors were  
identified in the opposite order with the #1 motor at the long hood  
end. Of course, during the years of service, some of the plates and  
designations disappeared via accident, theft, etc., so some photos of  
a particular locomotive may not exhibit a builder's plate because it  
had disappeared.

Bill Barber

On Feb 4, 2008, at 9:29 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> Lettering on E & F Units
> Posted by: "JAS SCHWARZ" jas.schwarz@sbcglobal.net   jimschwarz1947
> Sun Feb 3, 2008 10:18 am (PST)
>
> 1. When were the "Builder Plates" put on these locomotives? (EMD, etc)
>
> 2. When were the ""Unit Identification Plates" put on these  
> locomotives. (E7, E8, E9, i e)
>
> And fianlly,
>
> 3. When were the "F" symbol plates attached to these units.
>
> Never could understand #3, as it isn't too difficult to tell the  
> front from the rear of an E or F unit!!!
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim Schwarz



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