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RE: [CBQ] 1976 American Freedom Train on the CB&Q

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From: "Grice Dale-MGI1833" <dgrice@motorola.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 13:12:14 -0400
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Thread-topic: [CBQ] 1976 American Freedom Train on the CB&Q
EMD was a sponsor of the AFT. Might of had something to do with it. I
understand Jack Wheelihan was employed by EMD and assigned to 4449 or
the AFT. He became part of the "permanent" crew of 4449.
 
Dale
 
Dale Grice


 
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From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Russ
Strodtz
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 12:54 PM
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [CBQ] 1976 American Freedom Train on the CB&Q



Charlie,

I do recall there was a great deal of to-do involved in
getting the 4449 to EMD and back again. I do not recall
where it came from but the train was not with it. For
that matter I have no idea why EMD wanted it.

During the mid 50's the CB&Q timetable had specified that
steam locomotives could not operate around the curve on
the North Wye track at LaGrange/Congress Park. That may
have been just for spite as the IHB no longer had any
steam power. While the NYC,MC,or Big4 may have run some
trains into Blue Island with steam these would not have
gone to the "Q".

Whatever the case the 4449 did use that track without
incident.

Russ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Charlie Vlk
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CBQ%40yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, 26 September, 2007 10:15
Subject: Re: [CBQ] 1976 American Freedom Train on the CB&Q

The AFT came through Chicago at least twice IIRC.
I worked at the Illinois Bell Headquarters Building on Randolph Street
in 
downtown Chicago (a quick duck through the complex, across Washington
Street
and through the parking garage to the alley entrance of All-Nations
Hobby 
Shop....very convenient for a quick coffee break!!!). IIRC the 4449 and 
the 1 were
exchanged on the C&NW Navy Pier line just north of the Merchandise Mart.

I don't recall if that was on the Westbound or Eastbound leg, or maybe 
both...
I do know for a fact that it came through Belmont on the CB&Q racetrack 
running Easbound. The full consist of the train was behind the 4449...it

wasn't running
light to meet the train in Chicago so it was on the Eastbound leg of the

tour. I don't have the date but could dig out the slides for an
approximate
date....although I was never really swift on getting the slides
processed 
so that might not be much of a help. I am sure that somewheres there is
a 
log of the
travels of the train documented....
Charlie,

I thought the Freedom Train arrived in Chicago from the east behind the 
T1; it left Chicago westbound behind 4449. IIRC, 4449 arrived from the
west 
running light and had a crossing encounter with a truck at a crossing
(on 
the racetrack?) on the way to the EMD plant. Feel free to drop me an
email 
off list if you prefer ... I am a HUGE fan of the American Freedom
Train!

Regards,
John Lewis
Palmyra Missouri

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