Hi Dave;
Welcome to the small but growing club of Keokuk fans. I'll be posting
some more information to the web site about Keokuk industries in the
very near future (Sanborn maps, etc. that will answer a lot of your
questions). The CRI&P trackage map includes changes made in the 1960's,
but Duncan is right on about it being largely applicable to your era. I
suspect that the Rock Island still had its small roundhouse in the early
1950's (instead of the single stall steel engine house shown on the
map). Other industries to consider for your era would include General
Mills, Keokuk Steel Castings, National Carbide (on the river), Midwest
Carbide (up the branch line), Iowa Fiber Box Company and Thomas Truck
and Caster.
Kind regards, Rob Adams
Duncan Cameron wrote:
>
> Dave,
> Early fifties might let you escape CB&Q steam (not sure when the last
> came off the Hannibal division) but the Wabash was still running a
> little steamer into Keokuk then. Of course, the other three railroads
> can be added to operations later.
> I would have to check the date for the Rock Island map, but trackage
> didn't change much over the years until the BN era.
> Aside from the structures/industries you've mentioned along the river,
> there is one more north of Hubbingers that I'm still trying to
> identify. It may have been Cameron & Sons Coal. South of Hubbingers,
> there is the Rock Island engine facilities, a fuel oil dealer, and
> then three large industries: Midwest Carbide, Keokuk Steel Casting and
> Keokuk Electrometals.
> Up on the branch through town there is the CB&Q freighhouse, a Swift
> turkey packing plant, Keokuk Lumber, and then a few more outside of
> the town proper.
> That should give you a start.
> Duncan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: davelongman
> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CBQ%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 10:40 PM
> Subject: [CBQ] Re: MARK TWAIN ZEPHYR
>
> Duncan,
>
> I'm planning on the 1950-1953 time period. I want to be able to run
> Mark Twain Zephyr (I'll use a Con-Cor Pioneer Zephyr as a stand-in)
> and I don't want to have to worry about running steam. At the moment
> I'm in the process of developing a track plan. I can figure out some
> of the important features and industry locations from Rob's web site,
> such as the Union Depot, Rock Island freight depot, Hubingers and
> Northestern Seed Co; but I'm not certain which other industries to
> represent for this time period. Also what industries were located on
> the branch line? Finally, is the Rock Island Map of Keokuk on Rob's
> site appropriate for the 50's?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave Longman
>
> --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CBQ%40yahoogroups.com>, "Duncan
> Cameron" <d.cameron@...> wrote:
> >
> > Dave,
> > If you have specific questions, there are a few of us who can
> probably help significantly. Keokuk seems to be an increasingly
> popular subject for a model railroad. I've been working on mine now
> for 8 or 9 years. Rob's site has been a great source for vintage
> photos of structures. Do you have a specific time frame in mind?
> > Duncan Cameron
> > (modelling Keokuk in 1962-63)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: davelongman
> > To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CBQ%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 10:59 PM
> > Subject: [CBQ] Re: MARK TWAIN ZEPHYR
> >
> >
> > Rob,
> >
> > I too would love to have a copy of the Sanborn map. I'm trying to
> > design a layout around Keokuk and have found your website very
> > helpful, but still am left guessing as to the location of some of
> the
> > important structures.
> >
> > Dave Longman
> > Wichita, KS
> > dlogman@...
> >
> > --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com <mailto:CBQ%40yahoogroups.com>, Rob Adams
> <steamera@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Verlin;
> > >
> > > Attached is a PDF version of the Sanborn map.
> > >
> > > Kind regards, Rob Adams
> > >
> > > VERLIN WHITE wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > > Yes I would like to see/have a copy.
> > > >
> > > > Rob Adams <steamera@ <mailto:steamera%40netins.net>> wrote:
> > > > Hi Ken;
> > > >
> > > > Both of those photos have been on my site for a long time.
> The
> > early
> > > > picture is from a postcard I picked up at a flea market a
> couple
> > of
> > > > years ago. The elevator in the background is (was)
> Northwestern
> > Seed
> > > > Company, which was a prominent landmark across from the
> depot.
> > Their
> > > > name was on the elevator part of their structure. It was
> flanked
> > by
> > > > long trackside warehouse sections that connected to it. I've
> got a
> > > > Sanborn map of the area if anyone is interested in more info.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards, Rob
> > > >
> > > > Kenneth Martin wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have not seen these before thanks for posting them. Can
> you
> > read what
> > > > > is on the elevator (?) in the background?
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you checked Rob Adams Keokuk and Western page?
> > > > > http://keokukandwesternrr.com/ <http://keokukandwesternrr.com/>
> <http://keokukandwesternrr.com/ <http://keokukandwesternrr.com/>>
> > > > <http://keokukandwesternrr.com/ <http://keokukandwesternrr.com/>
> <http://keokukandwesternrr.com/ <http://keokukandwesternrr.com/>>>
> > > > >
> > > > > Ken Martin
> > > > >
> > > > > sailboy692002 wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >I have added an album with two pics of the MTZ at Keokuk
> Union
> > station.
> > > > > >One shows the original light placement and the other has
> the
> > added Mars
> > > > > >light.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >I don't remember where I got these and hopefully are not
> on
> > this group
> > > > > >already. If so, forgive a new member of the site.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Rob Adams
> > > > Wellman, IA
> > > > steamera@ <mailto:steamera%40netins.net>
> > > > Modeling the CB&Q RR's Keokuk & Western branch,
> > > > along with connecting Wabash and CRI&P operations, circa 1938
> > > > <http://www.KeokukandWesternRR.com
> <http://www.KeokukandWesternRR.com>
> > <http://www.KeokukandWesternRR.com <http://www.KeokukandWesternRR.com>>>
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Rob Adams
> > > Wellman, IA
> > > steamera@
> > > Modeling the CB&Q RR's Keokuk & Western branch,
> > > along with connecting Wabash and CRI&P operations, circa 1938
> > > <http://www.KeokukandWesternRR.com
> <http://www.KeokukandWesternRR.com>>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
--
Rob Adams
Wellman, IA
steamera@netins.net
Modeling the CB&Q RR's Keokuk & Western branch,
along with connecting Wabash and CRI&P operations, circa 1938
<http://www.KeokukandWesternRR.com>
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