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Re: [CBQ] Motive Power-Consist for the CZ

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Motive Power-Consist for the CZ
From: "Stephen J. Levine" <sjl@prodigy.net>
Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 16:12:23 -0700 (PDT)
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That is, Western Pacific F's in ABA formation.  Sorry this was not clear.
   
  sjl

"Stephen J. Levine" <sjl@prodigy.net> wrote:
  Check Karl Zimmerman's California Zephyr book for one photo of ABA F's 
leading the CZ.  I have seen other photos as well from time to time.
   
  sjl

Aeolus3@aol.com wrote:
  Now remember when using the first generation power for the CZ the consist had 
some minor changes. 

For example in 1949 the CZ carried the 16 section Pullman and 1 10-6 Pullman 
between the dome-dorm-buffet and the dinning car. This was only in the first 
summer of operation, the Pullman passengers were going forward to use the 
buffet dome for drink service. Now the dome in that car was reserved for 
Pullman 
passengers. In the fall of 1949 the CZ operators moved the dinning car behind 
the dome-dorm. 

The DRG&W PA's in the black and gold paint only lasted a short time in CZ 
operation. I always thought that was the best looking Rio Grande power on the 
CZ. 

The WP added two ABA sets of FP7 F7B FP7, although I don't ever recall seeing 
that ABA set in service on the CZ. Perhaps it did happen but again I've never 
seen a photo. 

Now the two other changes in consist would be the adding of the 6-5 Pullmans 
one to each train set. This happened in 1952. The other change was dropping 
the through Pullman in 1958. So  if you have 10-6 Pullman Silver Rapids the PRR 
car, don't put red nose stripped E's on the CZ....... the red first appeared 
in 1959. 

Of course at almost anytime other cars appeared in the consist. Pullman 
Standard Rio Grande coaches, Burlington pre war Budds, and almost any 
railroad's 
10-6 Pullmans. Sometimes it would be an odd Pullman being used as the through 
Pullman or perhaps a tour group. 

Also we can't forget the 16 Section Pullman cars, the sections were removed, 
and 48 seats replacing the sections. This was done with no changes to the 
outside of the cars. 

But over the years, the CZ consist remained pretty much the same only with 
traffic patterns changing the length of the train. 

Have fun with the CZ! The California Zephyr was a special train. It was a fun 
family train, relaxed in operation. And remember on one ever died on the CZ 
although one child was born aboard the train!

Loren Johnson


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