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Re: [CBQ] Alcad paint Modeling Techniques

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Alcad paint Modeling Techniques
From: Rob Adams <steamera@netins.net>
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:42:30 -0600
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Ray;

Thanks for the description.  That's interesting.  I wonder what the 
model airplane guys do.  Rob

Ray Bedard wrote:

>Rob, the problem with the dull coat or any coat is the fact the the bright 
>Alcad paint under the decal film remained shinny where as all the Alcad 
>paint up to the decal was dull. So the decal with the words "Burlington" 
>were a bright stainless steel under the decal, the area around the decal is 
>now dull.
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>Ray Bedard
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>>From: Rob Adams <steamera@netins.net>
>>Reply-To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
>>To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: Re: [CBQ] Alcad paint Modeling Techniques
>>Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:28:59 -0600
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>>Ray;
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>>Another thought...did you use a setting solution when applying decals,
>>and are you confident that the decals were well-bonded?  Even though it
>>has a gloss finish,  use of setting solution to get your decals to
>>really "snuggle down" is still imperative.  I had a similar thing happen
>>to me a while back when I dull-coated over a Westerfield Q XM-24 box car
>>that I'd built.  It looked fine until I dull-coated, and then every spot
>>that hadn't settled down to the paint showed like a streak.  The
>>frustrating part is that I used a setting solution, but the matte Polly
>>Scale finish underneath just didn't bond the decals very well.  It's
>>really maddening when you've put a lot of work into something.
>>
>>Regards, Rob Adams
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>>Ray Bedard wrote:
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>>>A word of causion when using Alcad paint. I painted an E7 and it came out
>>>beautiful. I then decaled it - since it is a high gloss, I did not have 
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>>to
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>>>give it a overcoat of gloss before decalling it.
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>>>The decals went on and boy did it look great, and the decal film didn't 
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>>show
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>>>through! Then I decided that in order to protect the decals I should give 
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>>it
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>>>a very light over spray of dull, what a mistake. The decals were well
>>>protected, but the film all around the decal showed through. So now I 
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>>either
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>>>will have to strip it or use it for parts.
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>>>So the lession here is DO NOT use any dull coating over the decals when
>>>using this paint.
>>>
>>>Ray Bedard
>>>San Jose Ca
>>>PS: Still alive and contributing to both the CBQ and the BRHS lists.
>>>
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>>>>From: Aeolus3@aol.com
>>>>Reply-To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
>>>>To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
>>>>Subject: Re: [CBQ] Modeling Techniques
>>>>Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 00:27:14 EST
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>>>>I would have to agree Alclad doesn't seem to notice model railroading. 
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>>I've
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>>>>see a couple of Walthers Budd cars finished in Alclad next to my nickel
>>>>plated
>>>>brass DZ cars. The effect was pretty close to the look of the DZ's 
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>>finish.
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>>>>seems the undercoat changes the color of the "stainless" final coat. 
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>>Gloss
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>>>>black seems to mimic the nickel plating fairly closely.
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>>>>For those modeling Pullman Standard Stainless Steel cars, I wonder if
>>>>changing the undercoat color would show the effect of the difference in
>>>>color between
>>>>Budd and Pullman Standard Stainless. To me the PS Stainless always 
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>>appeared
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>>>>more to the reddish side while the Budd appeared more to the blue side.
>>>>This
>>>>was a color shot of the Santa Fe Super Chief with both PS and Budd.
>>>>
>>>>Loren Johnson
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