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Re: [CBQ] Last Q Steam To Operate

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Last Q Steam To Operate
From: Bob Webber <zephyr1@ameritech.net>
Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:46:42 -0600
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The two post 1957 steam that I have found in my collections so far are:
M4A 6310 May 7, 1961 1961 Centralia, IL
M4A 6315 July 17, 1960 1960 Galesburg

doubtless NOT under steam.

I still have to look through a few more albums, boxes and slide trays though.


At 10:25 AM 12/22/2004, you wrote:

>The 4978 was one of five (I think) 01a 2-8-2s leased temporarily to the C&S
>in the fall of 1958, due to two bad head-ons, which took several diesels out
>of service.  They worked into the 1959 beet campaign between Fort Collins
>and Denver.  Here is a photo of 4978 taken at the 7th Street roundhouse in
>Denver on March 7, 1959, before it was shipped back to Illinois:
>http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00003842+OP-3842
>
>I know the 4994 (now at Lubbock, TX) was one of these, also the 4947 and (I
>think) the 4952.  Not sure of the fifth one.  The 4994 stayed at 7th Street
>as a possible parts supply for the touring 4960, and is said to have donated
>some grates doing so.  It went to Texas in 1964.
>
>In March 1959, while riding with others through Ft. Morgan, Colorado, I saw
>a steam locomotive parked on a siding there, from about one block distant.
>I could not convince them to visit it, but suspect it was one of the 01a
>engines being returned to Illinois.
>
>Photo of 4947 under steam at Denver, sometime in the fall of 1958:
>http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?
>00003839+OP-3839
>
>This one says "ca. 1960), but I suspect it is a year earlier.
>http://photoswest.org/cgi-bin/imager?00003840+OP-3840
>
>I suspect, as someone said here, that the last actual Q operation was the
>4997 in January 1959.  I'd like to see photos of any Q steam operation in
>1958-59.  If anyone has some, please post them.  also, please post the
>aforementioned photos of 4978 in storage before donation..
>
>Bob Yarger, Editor
>Railway Preservation News (free website)
>www.rypn.org
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <LZadnichek@aol.com>
>To: <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Monday, December 20, 2004 6:19 PM
>Subject: [CBQ] Last Q Steam To Operate
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> > December 20, 2004
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> > Mr. McCauley - In answer to your latest post, if there was one lucky O1-a,
>it
> > was the 4978. I'm sending you offline a photograph I took of the derelict
> > 2-8-2 on March 17, 1963 on a turntable stub track at the Galesburg
>roundhouse.
> >
> > At the time I took her photograph, the 4978 and 4960 were the only two
>O1-a
> > engines left on the official CB&Q roster. The stripped and tenderless 4943
>was
> > still on the property, but was awaiting shipment to NWS&W to be scrapped.
> >
> > The 4978 survived as she had been retained for stationary boiler service.
> > Fortunately, she survived long enough to be donated. I have copies of
>March 1963
> > and September 1960 "Condition and Location of Locomotives" for the
>Galesburg
> > Division.
> >
> > The March 1963 report states that the 4978 had last received heavy repairs
>in
> > March 1955 and had run 34,035 miles since that date. The O1-a additionally
> > had 67 months flue credit and 40 months firebox credit for being out of
>service.
> >
> > If you back out 67 months from March 1963, then the last time the 4978 was
> > fired up would've been August 1957. Thus, unless the O1-a underwent class
> > repairs at Galesburg sometime after March 1963, it's impossible she
>steamed to
> > Ottawa for display.
> >
> > Rather, unless someone can prove me wrong, the CB&Q's Galesburg roundhouse
> > gang cosmetically restored the 4978 to first class appearance to be towed
>as a
> > dead engine. Today, she looks wonderful in her new home at the Mendota
>station.
> >
> > Thus, the 4978 was NOT one of the last Q steam engines to operate. That
> > distinction would fall to one of her O1-a sisters at Herrin Junction in
>January
> > 1959. Do any records remain of exactly which O1-a was the LAST to be fired
>up for
> > a mine run?
> >
> > Louis Zadnichek II
> > Fairhope, AL
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